Triumphant Roar ---> Fail-umphant Roar (Balance changes, aka hard nerf)

Dominick Destine··8 votes·716 views

Alistar Triumphant Roar (E) ! Mana cost increased to 50/60/70/80/90 from 40/50/60/70/80 Cooldown increased to 16 at all ranks from 12 at all ranks

I'm all for nerfing Alistar but isn't this hitting him in entirely the wrong area?

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Vistha Kai4 votes

Um... Wasn't Alistar like barely ever using his heal because of how stupidly costly it was?

FantasySniper2 votes

Holy shit, poor cow.

I may not play Alistar that often, but even I know that's way too hard of a nerf. They better change his CD reduction to "whenever a nearby unit dies."

Erockandroll1 votes

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Holy shit, poor cow.

I may not play Alistar that often, but even I know that's way too hard of a nerf. They better change his CD reduction to "whenever a nearby unit dies."

You should see how much he's getting spammed in the LCS.

The reason they are targeting their heal is the ridiculous synergy with Windspeakers blessing. (You would never think a Tank support would pick that up.) But his heals late game give his team a strong source of defenses. And it's hard to remove that source with Alistar's powerful defensive ult.

Dominick Destine1 votes

That's not why Alistar is picked up in LCS... that's nice and all, but his real purpose is the hard stun/knockback he brings with him.

Erockandroll1 votes

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That's not why Alistar is picked up in LCS... that's nice and all, but his real purpose is the hard stun/knockback he brings with him.

That's good, But I don't think that's the main reason. Shy would the chose the engage potential of Alistar over say Leona? The answer to that would be his ult. He gets the tankyness of any lane tank. (even if only temporary) without any other items.

FantasySniper1 votes

I doubt that. It's probably because of their QoL indirect buff and they want to tap him in a place that isn't directly related to his fighting capability.

Old Man Teeto1 votes

Think the goal is to keep him from being as resilient as he is against poke in 2v2 lanes while preserving his powerful engage/cc.

I'll see how the changes feel, Ali was already fairly mana starved in lane.

Br4ndon1 votes

I think they should nerf him by making Q only knock up and not knock up for 10 minutes. Then stunned for another 10 minutes after.

Dominick Destine3 votes

I'd be down for a nerf to his Q stun duration, even if it means improving the CD of Q.

His Q is so absurdly frontloaded ... it is arguably the most powerful single skill in the game.

Wolfenstin1 votes

I wish they'd just drop the heal all together. Without any items to back it up, it's not that useful. Why not just make it a skill that procs his passive and gives him a move speed buff or something?

I honestly only ever see myself using the E to proc the passive for wave clear/extra area damage and less to heal since it's so minuscule.

Sad to see him getting nerfed because of a keystone. Poor poor cow.

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