still no lee win nerfs

i'm still waiting "Tanks go straight into a fight, have natural survivability, sustained damage patterns, team utility/CC and are usually not attractive targets to try and take down if you've got any better options. Assassins by contrast tend to flank, have extremely high target selection and burst, low team utility, lack constant survivability (instead relying on other tools like mobility, untargetability, stealth etc) and are usually great targets to kill if you can focus them. Combining those two categories risks creating very tanky, mobile champions with high CC/utility that set up their own kills, are extremely hard to take down and will happily chew through an entire team. When that goes wrong you get things like release Xin Zhao. When balanced you get a character that's ok at a lot of things, lacks clear strengths or weaknesses and isn't well distinguished from other similar champions (the fighter problem basically)." Here is an other quote "The second tier of upgrades is being reduced by 100. Ideally, this shouldn't have much real change on the game except in ONE specific scenario... First blood.

The current upgrades are 350 up from Machete. If a level 1 fight breaks out and if a jungler gets the first blood (+400 gold), it can cause the game to snowball right out of the gate since they have access to an upgrade on their first clear and still have their consumable incidentals. The difference between an upgrade and no upgrade is stark. This change is intended to help alleviate that a little bit."muh lee sin muh lee sin muh first blood lee sin muh lee taking virginity of all the junglers is what i'm reading edit:with the current changes on the pbe if i'm playing a normal jungler and the enemy will have lee win he will kill me over and over cause i've to recall 2 times before do red and he will jump out of bush and kill me again and again see what rito did to shaco for this..... at least shaco was useless late game and had limited mobility edit2:i'll pick the best quotes from comments until we have a rito answer

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Did you know that Lee's Ultimate is a supression?

As in, when he is casting it, his target is incapable of moving, flashing or activating any items.

Not to mention the whole ''600 base damage AoE nuke with 200% Bonus AD Scalling on one of the shortest CDs in the game'' part.

Muh winrate [{quoted}](name=Onan the man99,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BBFj6sJL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-01-24T16:40:17.166+0000)

keep waiting they have bigger problems. (sarcasm)