Riot's solution to fix solo players experience in Dynamic Boost: Here have a medal.

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A Bronze Jungler7 votes

Well at least now you'll be able to see at a glance who is a boosted animal without any integrity and who isn't.

69982196_DEL7 votes

How, the badge is in the profile page.

You should care more about matchmaking quality instead of witch hunting.

Marshbouy1 votes

and they improve matchmaking quality how? got any ideas?

69982196_DEL1 votes

what?

Marshbouy1 votes

You want better matchamaking so how do you suggest you make it better? you can't always just want something without at least proposing a solution

Jaawn6 votes

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You want better matchamaking so how do you suggest you make it better? you can't always just want something without at least proposing a solution

Suggestion for how to make matchmaking better: have pure solo queue ranked and pure 5v5 ranked and a dynamic queue for normals. Easy fix.

Marshbouy4 votes

Thats true. But (holy shit i have to type this again) RIOT cannot replace DQ with soloQ in the middle fo the season because it will destroy the ranked ladder. They will most likely either get DQ fixed by the end of season 6 or replace DQ with soloQ by season 7. if they do not do that then you can start to truly lose it.

BloodyTompon2 votes

I don't know if it's you every time, but I've seen this posted too often haha

Marshbouy1 votes

It honestly could be me, no exaggeration, ive literally had to type that at least 16 times at this point

BloodyTompon1 votes

I think I've seen about 6 different instances of it haha

Marshbouy1 votes

making a copypasta so i dont have to break my hands. Some people require a more in depth explanation of whats going on, its not fun.

YJRBqwXJcS1 votes

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Thats true. But (holy shit i have to type this again) RIOT cannot replace DQ with soloQ in the middle fo the season because it will destroy the ranked ladder. They will most likely either get DQ fixed by the end of season 6 or replace DQ with soloQ by season 7. if they do not do that then you can start to truly lose it.

You sound like an abused significant other

Puppet33r1 votes

So we should just ignore how they ruined the whole season with this dumb decision that was shunned by everyone from the start?

Marshbouy1 votes

RIOT painted themself into a corner. They realized they cannot have the two queues side by side after they had promised to bring back SoloQ and they can't switch it out this late into the season. What i think they are trying to do now is fix DQ and if they can't get it fixed by s7 they will bring back soloQ. They wouldn't dare say it at this point though.

ZephyrDrake3 votes

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Suggestion for how to make matchmaking better: have pure solo queue ranked and pure 5v5 ranked and a dynamic queue for normals. Easy fix.

so you want the same matchmaking that we had before DQ? the one EVERYONE complained because it was terrible? wow such a great idea you have there, such an easy fix

Jaawn7 votes

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so you want the same matchmaking that we had before DQ? the one EVERYONE complained because it was terrible? wow such a great idea you have there, such an easy fix

Hey, I'm not saying it was perfect, but it was vastly better than DQ from a ranked point of view. DQ is definitely better than previous versions for normals.

Daen3 votes

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so you want the same matchmaking that we had before DQ? the one EVERYONE complained because it was terrible? wow such a great idea you have there, such an easy fix

Do you have a source where everyone is complaining about the matchmaking we had before DQ? Also, why is the assumption here that DQ resolves these complaints?

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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Do you have a source where everyone is complaining about the matchmaking we had before DQ? Also, why is the assumption here that DQ resolves these complaints?

how about this very forums? just go back to old posts and people were complaining about matchmaking then as well also why you think that SoloQ is going to solve anything? they are running on the same algorithm when it comes to making pairs. Only difference is that one has premades while the other doesn't but it's the exact same algorithm. People will still be boosted to whatever rank they wished to be, people will still be stuck in "elo hell". DQ is not perfect and has quite a few issues but that doesn't mean that bringing SoloQ is going to fix any of those issues. It might fix some but at the same time it will bring a whole other set of issues that would need to be resolved. Long queue times are because of the new champ select so that's going to stay regardless of whether we have SQ or DQ, quality matches might be slightly better in SQ but it's still going to end up being relatively the same anyways.

This is supposed to be a team game, it's supposed to be able to reward not only those who play the game solo but also those who play in a group and the previous "ranked teams" didn't really did that for the group part. Now it's the opposite but they even said that this change wasn't supposed to fix that but serve as a start. People are so quick to just flame and blame Riot for really no reason other than "you didn't give me exactly what i wanted!"

AATTRROOXX3 votes

I was quite active on the boards and have been since mid-season 5. I don't remember seeing any posts akin to these. Can you show me multiple posts from 7-19 months ago with more than 15 upvotes? If not, you have no proof and your statement that "everyone" was complaining about it is wrong.

chipndip12 votes

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Do you have a source where everyone is complaining about the matchmaking we had before DQ? Also, why is the assumption here that DQ resolves these complaints?

Matchmaking before this wasn't all that great, let's be honest. The notion of "Put 2 jg mains, 2 mids, and a top on the same team vs. 3 supports, an adc main, and a mid" was the main issue.

AATTRROOXX1 votes

NEW CHAMPION SELECT ≠ DYNAMIC QUEUE.

chipndip11 votes

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NEW CHAMPION SELECT ≠ DYNAMIC QUEUE.

I said "match-making". Both are apart of that process.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

everyone complained? The problem is riots matchmaking okay from here we take a breath and riots solution is to add even more variables to the matchmaking to make it even more unbalanced/broken. Greatjob

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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everyone complained? The problem is riots matchmaking okay from here we take a breath and riots solution is to add even more variables to the matchmaking to make it even more unbalanced/broken. Greatjob

so your solution is to go back to the same broken and unbalanced matchmaking we had before? good solution i will say

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Matchmaking hasn't changed if you haven't noticed. So you are implying that the current system is NOT unbalanced and NOT broken? U must be kidding. DynQ just made the matchmaking even worse.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

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Suggestion for how to make matchmaking better: have pure solo queue ranked and pure 5v5 ranked and a dynamic queue for normals. Easy fix.

5v5 ranked already existed and almost no one used it. Plenty of people use the dynamic system because it's way easier to play with one or two people than it is four.

Orangesilk6 votes

Okay, listen here.

Solo queue was the most utterly toxic thing I've ever played, it was an awful clusterfuck, I couldn't stomach even a few games before the vitriol got to me, all in all, it was an awful experience. That's why at some point I decided to play exclusively with my friends, I became a team ranked exclusive player, it was fun.

Team rankeds was the most fun I've had in league, then the new season rolled out, team ranked was scrapped, so I was forced to play dynamic queue. The community hasn't changed, so of course I ended up playing exclusively 5man premade with my friends.

This doesn't make me a boosted animal without integrity, in fact, it's exactly this kind of toxicity that encourages me to play exclusively with friends. Now I get a group badge for playing with friends, this badge ABSOLUTELY means that I can never, ever, ever play solo queue, ever, because I will, without a doubt get flamed to hell and back by people like YOU.

This doesn't solve any problems, and just makes the toxicity worse.

The Sword Saint2 votes

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Okay, listen here.

Solo queue was the most utterly toxic thing I've ever played, it was an awful clusterfuck, I couldn't stomach even a few games before the vitriol got to me, all in all, it was an awful experience. That's why at some point I decided to play exclusively with my friends, I became a team ranked exclusive player, it was fun.

Team rankeds was the most fun I've had in league, then the new season rolled out, team ranked was scrapped, so I was forced to play dynamic queue. The community hasn't changed, so of course I ended up playing exclusively 5man premade with my friends.

This doesn't make me a boosted animal without integrity, in fact, it's exactly this kind of toxicity that encourages me to play exclusively with friends. Now I get a group badge for playing with friends, this badge ABSOLUTELY means that I can never, ever, ever play solo queue, ever, because I will, without a doubt get flamed to hell and back by people like YOU.

This doesn't solve any problems, and just makes the toxicity worse.

I don't care if you play with friends only and get a badge, good for you live your life. I care that I get a solo badge which will allow me to accurately compare myself to other people with solo badges in terms of our ranking. I care that noone can trivialize my efforts as a solo player by assuming I might have gotten my rank by playing with a group and getting carried. I care that having the badge means I won't feel terrible in the back of my mind like I'm wasting my time to aim for a rank that people can't actually trust is valid because of the existence of premades.

Premade groups sacrificed the experience of solo players for their own gain in the dynamic queue system. Premade players will just have to suck it up and take one for the team by letting solo players get a badge that alleviates some of their frustration and suffering.

RoodToob1 votes

Premades are fine with all this. They're pissed that because they play solely with friends, no one will take their rank seriously. and while there are boosted players, most are not, and will still receive flame and toxicity for it. Some solos might not like DQ (I'm solo and i enjoy it as much as old Solo/Duo) but they didn't get flamed like crazy for it, while premade players will for no real reason. Because of this, they wont ever be able to join a game as a solo without flame

Supreme Senpai692 votes

I only play with one friend which was allowed in the old ranked system anyway. Don't really see why that should be advertised to everybody such that they think I'm boosted. I'm with ya on this one.

A Bronze Jungler2 votes

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Okay, listen here.

Solo queue was the most utterly toxic thing I've ever played, it was an awful clusterfuck, I couldn't stomach even a few games before the vitriol got to me, all in all, it was an awful experience. That's why at some point I decided to play exclusively with my friends, I became a team ranked exclusive player, it was fun.

Team rankeds was the most fun I've had in league, then the new season rolled out, team ranked was scrapped, so I was forced to play dynamic queue. The community hasn't changed, so of course I ended up playing exclusively 5man premade with my friends.

This doesn't make me a boosted animal without integrity, in fact, it's exactly this kind of toxicity that encourages me to play exclusively with friends. Now I get a group badge for playing with friends, this badge ABSOLUTELY means that I can never, ever, ever play solo queue, ever, because I will, without a doubt get flamed to hell and back by people like YOU.

This doesn't solve any problems, and just makes the toxicity worse.

First, I play exclusively solo q and toxicity isn't that bad any more (with the exception of trash tier 3 and 4 man premades); you are either way too sensitive or full of crap. Second, if you don't abuse dynamic q you won't get the badge, and thus won't be flamed for being a boosted animal. Problem solved problem staying solve Rangers lead the way. Third, this is a problem created by Rito with their stupid ideas of dynamic q and bs matchmaking. So you and your no integrity clan are not fully to blame. Forth, You're a boosted animal accept it and embrace it.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Tha's why you post on a "fake" account so we can't say how hard you got boosted by your friends. Funny enough that most of the toxic people i met in soloQ have been premades. Same applies to DynQ. Playing since Season2.

Zone of Endless2 votes

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Well at least now you'll be able to see at a glance who is a boosted animal without any integrity and who isn't.

Which is gonna create animosity between players. How did they not think this wont create a more toxic environment?

Dr Birdie1 votes

They might already know. But it is what "solo queuers" have been asking for. A pat on the back for not getting "boosted."

Peng0d6 votes

They already stated that this wasn't a solution to fix it. You should try to read these things before you try to make jabs at it.

CppL3 votes

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They already stated that this wasn't a solution to fix it. You should try to read these things before you try to make jabs at it.

They also stated that soloQ will be back in a couple months.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

*weeks. Don't forget tribunal rip. Magma chamber rip.

GaleWinUnleashed5 votes

Please note that they specifically said that this is not enough to consider it fixed. They're looking into more options.

69982196_DEL3 votes

Further more, that is not even a sart.

PiVoRx6 votes

So seasson is half done and all they got is a badge for solo players efforts in this fucking nightmare? Really? They can stick this badge deep inside their asses.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Oh it's definitely too late to fix this season. We just have to hope it'll be better next round.

Blanchimont1 votes

It's never too late. The question is how long Riot is willing to wait before they're willing to admit they're wrong.

Dr Birdie1 votes

Ah. Yes. The insult route. Perfect for when you want to have a calm productive discussion.

PiVoRx2 votes

If there was a difference between productive discussion and insult route, we would be free from dyno boost already.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

They are always looking into. They were also looking into tribunal, since season 3.

Paroe1 votes

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They are always looking into. They were also looking into tribunal, since season 3.

Tribunal was honestly one of the draws to league of legends. It was one of the unique things about the game; It and the lore were two of most unique things.

Now the lore is dead (Riot killed it in the retcon, its not lore anymore: Its a bunch of stories that arent connected) and there no "justice" system beside the cookie cutter bot with the banhammer.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Yep. Because in tribunal i could atleast look into the context and sometimes pardoned people who got "bullied" so hard that they just leashed out and started insulting back. The tribunal really forged the community together. Now this automated system, dunno. I miss the lore too. I was always excited to read the lore on a new champ until riot started to just write two sentences. "Hecarim is a horse. He hates everyone. Such anger, much bad. wow. " Kinda like this.

Paroe1 votes

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Yep. Because in tribunal i could atleast look into the context and sometimes pardoned people who got "bullied" so hard that they just leashed out and started insulting back. The tribunal really forged the community together. Now this automated system, dunno. I miss the lore too. I was always excited to read the lore on a new champ until riot started to just write two sentences. "Hecarim is a horse. He hates everyone. Such anger, much bad. wow. " Kinda like this.

Eh. Riot dude arena isnt interesting anymore, you dont play it because youre invested in it... you play it because its easier than dota and everyone else is.

If dawngate had been allowed to flourish by EA, it would have become a contender with league for sure; the investment people had in it was staggering, and that investment was solely because we felt like a part of the game and not just a dude on a computer.

USG Failsawce2 votes

Wasn't there something that did this before... something like solo queueing and getting rewarded based on how well you do as an individual player...?

What was it called... gosh I can't remember... Ohhh wait, right, it was called ranked.

Too bad that thing doesn't exist anymore.

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