Q - Worked Ground now has a ring around it that shows how long the worked ground will remain
W - Now shows the circle knockup radius in addition to the vector arrow while vector casting
Base AD Increased by 5 to help with CSing since you killed her Q
Salron4 votes[{quoted}](name=Friend of the JG,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B4pjz58E,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-10-26T20:45:37.830+0000)
Q - Worked Ground now has a ring around it that shows how long the worked ground will remain
W - Now shows the circle knockup radius in addition to the vector arrow while vector casting
Fix'd ur post
TurquoiseYoshi2 votesOnly the first two are QoL. I'm fine with those, would need more convincing for the actual buffs.
Jinzo Torrance2 votesKilled her Q, yeah right. Can't instaclear wave at all levels, ult bot, take double and return to lane for your next wave to instaclear.
Fucking disgusting champion. 3 sec CD Q was not needed.
Leon Etoile1 votesThe issue isn't that she could wave clear. It's how cheap her wave clear was and on low cd.
Viktor needs items and his E is super expensive.
Asura Gonza1 votes[{quoted}](name=Leon Etoile,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B4pjz58E,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-10-27T16:08:11.943+0000)
The issue isn't that she could wave clear. It's how cheap her wave clear was and on low cd.
Viktor needs items and his E is super expensive.
While this is true, i think they overnerfed her waveclear.
But im against them giving her more waveclear based on % outside of her items. What they could do, is keep her clear damage as it is, but give her more damage on her WG-Q because that single pellet right now does miserable damage.
Also let her gain mana refund on her other 2 skills while on working ground, so she can use those to wave clear.
Its a win-win Situation for everyone: On one hand, she now can use all her skills to waveclear without getting mana starved (one full EWQ combo on minions can deplete like 45% of your mana in early levels everytime). And on the other hand...taliyah will have to decide if going on cooldown with her skills to farm, or use them to damage the enemy laner. This will get windows of cooldown where she will not be able to trade because of waveclearing, and will give the chance tot h enemy to capitalize.
Leon Etoile2 votesAll they would have to do is mana gate her wave clear and put the damage back.
That way if she roamed early; she wouldn't have any mana. It would force her to at least wait for mana like Viktor. I'm using Viktor as a comparison considering he's usually the most targeted for hate in wave clearing.
Tomosima1 votesreasonable stuff id say good job.
inplane1 votesRiot Zenon has mentioned that he will give W a QoL change where it will start casting when left click is held down for Normal Cast. Smart Cast would probably be when W is held down and it starts casting wherever the mouse is. It will fix the Vector Casting input delay and let her vertically knock up again. This is assuming that it also gets a proper targeting reticle.
He also said something about a Worked Ground timer, but he didn't say much about it.
Jynweithek1 votesRiot Zenon has mentioned that he will give W a QoL change where it will start casting when left click is held down for Normal Cast. Smart Cast would probably be when W is held down and it starts casting wherever the mouse is. It will fix the Vector Casting input delay and let her vertically knock up again. This is assuming that it also gets a proper targeting reticle.
He also said something about a Worked Ground timer, but he didn't say much about it.
Do you have a link for Zenons comment about the W QoL changes? I seem to have missed this despite following it pretty extensively.
inplane1 votesDo you have a link for Zenons comment about the W QoL changes? I seem to have missed this despite following it pretty extensively.
It's somewhere in the 
Mains Reddit. He's been talking to them about future changes to her an he mentioned it in this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/TaliyahMains/comments/52hgne/i_wonder_if_the_balancing_team_or_daniel_z_klein/ . Very first post in the discussion.
He has talked about other changes, but they're somewhere in the subreddit.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesCan u stop with these lies on the boards? I just faced a Talijah (second time ever and a horrible experience) and she was able to push me into the turret from level 1 without a problem. Her Q is frickin cheap and strong as well on minions. Low CD too.
Asura Gonza1 votesCan u stop with these lies on the boards? I just faced a Talijah (second time ever and a horrible experience) and she was able to push me into the turret from level 1 without a problem. Her Q is frickin cheap and strong as well on minions. Low CD too.
Maybe you are talking about her non WG-Q?. its is okay but it will not clear waves imba style like it used to.. Try spamming that Q after 2 or 3 volleys with all the ground worked around you and tell me how it goes. Also it consumes considerable mana outside WG if spammed mindlessly to harrass or clear.
WG Q tickles even minions, let alone champs.
it be lìke that2 votesnot sure who you were playing but, keep in mind minions block everything she does with a little splash damage, she is very easy to zone. keep her dancing on her worked ground and she has no burst.
if you get caught by a w pre rylai, that is 100% a mistake on your part.
She is very weak in A LOT of match ups and everything she does another mid laner does better. she is incredibly fun, they ruined one of the most rewarding combos to land that required a decent amount of skill/prediction. id love for her q to be nerfed but given maybe 25% bonus damage to minions back and her e actually do something.
Unless you played like Pantheon mid or teemo, i cannot see how you would get dumpstered.
