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Youmuu's Ghostblade Rework to make it more of an Assassin item

Kingsgrave··1 votes·1,522 views

item 3142 always seems like it was supposed to be an Assassin item but why does it give Crit and AS?

**Made with these Assassins in mind: ** Zed Fiora Talon MasterYi Yasuo Pantheon Nocturne Riven Shaco Rengar Khazix LeeSin

To go with the name of "Ghost" I decided to focus on the MS aspect of the active while also having it centered around killing and assassinating.

The following changes makes the item actually less efficient than on live by a slight amount but it is far more efficient during the active and as long as you chain kills the MS will keep going but it has a shorter duration.

Live in Italics Changes in Bold

30 AD --------------> 50 AD 15% crit chance ----------------------> 0% crit chance Unique: 10% CDR Unique: 20 Armor Pen

Active: 40% AS + 20% MS ---------> **60% MS ** Active CD: 45 seconds ----------> 80 seconds Active Duration: 6 seconds -------------------> 4 seconds **Active CD now resets on Kill or Assist **

Build Path: item 3093 item 3134 ---------------> item 1037 item 3134

5 Comments

Lissama3 votes

Active: 40% AS + 20% MS ---------> **60% MS **

No

BluePolarizer3 votes

Item is actually 100x worse with your changes because most AD assassins have way more autoattack damage than their spells with the exception of Talon, Pantheon and Lee Sin, and Pantheon/Lee Sin arent even assassins. Yasuo, Yi and Nocturne aren't really assassins either, they are more like high sustained damage fighters for whom crit and AS are extremely important stats. Riven only buys GB for the MS and +10 arpen. Pantheon never buys ghostblade regardless.

Your version has an inferior build path, inferior active, inferior passive and inferior stats except for 20 AD.

67chrome2 votes

**Made with these Assassins in mind: ** Zed Fiora Talon MasterYi Yasuo Pantheon Nocturne Riven Shaco Rengar Khazix LeeSin

You're suggested changes would actually be a pretty significant nerf in regards to:

Fiora MasterYi Yasuo Rengar wanting Ghostblade.

The main reason to grab Ghostblade is it's a 1-stop shop to become an ADC with every ADC stat outside of crit. You want to AA things to death with only 1 major item that doesn't have a power-sink BF build? You get to AA things to death with Ghostblade rocking out from a Brutalizer.

Also - all the changes you're suggesting are pretty unappealing.

15% crit for 20 AD is kind of a loss. You need ~110 AD for critical strike chance to become a more cost-effective damage stat, and with the availability of AD on a wide range of items and lack of much choice for crit, that's a bit of a sting. Champions like Fiora and Yi can get over 110 AD just from in-built steroids and leveling up before they can even afford the full item.

Also: 40% AS for 20% MS is is not worth. As much as mobility is valued - moving kind of fast makes you immobile like Udyr and Orianna, not fast like Lee Sin or Zed. Speed has everything to do with abilities that take you places. Reducing the duration by 2 seconds and adding an extra 35 seconds to the active is also pretty poopy, especially seeing as Hourglass's stasis only has a CD 10 seconds longer.

Finally for this - Avarice is a much easier and forgiving item to build into than Pickaxe, where you're removing one of the big appealing things of the current Youmuu's (very solid early power) for a slower, more drawn-out build similar to all other AD items ever.

Overall such a change seems like it would make Ghostblade more similar/redundant to existing AD itemization, occupying a more limited niche with less reason to build into, other than "most armor pen ever on Zed".

Variks the Loyal1 votes

I'd trade the active AS for the ability to move through units while the MS was active.

junglerboy161 votes

So basically remove what makes it a good assassin item so that it can have a reset? Yeah, no.

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