Current state of adc is just sad

Rexxiee·Oct 9, 2018·6 votes·2,561 views

Lucian and kaisa miles ahead of every other adc, basically if you pick neither you're trolling your team, and then everyother adc has mostly 0 impact on the game.

Fix this shit riot.

19 Comments

saltranOct 9, 20182 votes

Laughs in DarkHarvest MF

RexxieeOct 9, 20181 votes

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Laughs in DarkHarvest MF

Mf sucks in competitive or very high elo.

She has a lot of damage yes, but no mobility.

Why pick that when you can pick a champ with just as much damage and actual mobility (lucian) or a champ with EVEN MORE DAMAGE AND mobility (kaisa).

ModWulf HelhammerOct 9, 20181 votes

“Kai’Sa is more mobile than Lucian”

That’s not something you see everyday.

RexxieeOct 9, 20181 votes

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“Kai’Sa is more mobile than Lucian”

That’s not something you see everyday.

I mean kaisa does more damage than lucian/mf, not mobility.

But shes still rather mobile, compared to the 100% immobile mf.

ModWulf HelhammerOct 9, 20181 votes

Lucian: maybe.

MF: nope.

Also, the only main difference in mobility between Kai and MF is her ult, which is an ultimate.

If you’re counting movement speed buffs as mobility now (which can I just add is fucking nuts that the boards are saying that now?), then ADC Queen of movement speed is right up there.

Oh, and I’m not the one who downvoted you.

saltranOct 9, 20182 votes

Dont be silly, when Kai'Sa has E evolved she has mobility even if its not a dash technically.

And dmg is a bit generic, if we talk about burst MF has more, but if by dmg you mean dps Kai'Sa is 10 tiers above MF

ModWulf HelhammerOct 9, 20181 votes

She has a movement speed boost. That’s it.

Is Twitch mobile? How about Eve, or Rengar?

saltranOct 9, 20182 votes

Kai'Sa E is a stealth that cant be seen like Rengar or Twicht by just being near.

Kai'Sa E isn't delayed like Twicht Q or Rengar R, it works as a escape button because it's instant.

If you do play Kai'Sa you'll notice that she uses her E exactly to reposition herself when she's out of position or to run away/chase someone.

That's why I count her E (with the upgrade) as mobility.

AtmosphereOct 9, 20185 votes

MF doesn't get in combat move speed. The minute she takes a hit, it goes away. Kai'Sa gets a huge in combat MS buff that lowers the cool down with autos and can give true invisibility with attack speed, plus her ultimate. Kai'Sa is mobile, MF is not. Your comparison is awful.

ModWulf HelhammerOct 9, 20181 votes

So you mean like MF’s strut, that does essentially the exact same thing?

Only real reasons Kai’s is incombat and MF’s isn’t is because MF’s doesn’t have a limited duration and she’s has a higher AA range.

AtmosphereOct 10, 20181 votes

If Kai'Sa and MF are in danger, Kai'Sa can get out, but MF can't. Why? Kai'Sa can have in combat move speed, while MF cannot. Strut is NOT the same thing as Supercharger, and to suggest it is shows a complete misunderstanding of both abilities. Strut allows for MF to run in, poke, and get out of auto range to harass and avoid retaliation. Supercharger is for repositioning and kiting. Kai'Sa has more mobility available to her in more situations than MF, making her mobile in comparison. Stop trying to argue points that you clearly don't understand.

RexxieeOct 9, 20181 votes

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MF doesn't get in combat move speed. The minute she takes a hit, it goes away. Kai'Sa gets a huge in combat MS buff that lowers the cool down with autos and can give true invisibility with attack speed, plus her ultimate. Kai'Sa is mobile, MF is not. Your comparison is awful.

Imagine trying to argue that mf has more mobility than kaisa lmao.

Daddy AntsOct 9, 20181 votes

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I mean kaisa does more damage than lucian/mf, not mobility.

But shes still rather mobile, compared to the 100% immobile mf.

I'm in no way saying MF is more mobile than the likes of Kai'Sa or Lucian but ....

MF is not 100% immobile.

Any form of dash or movement speed steroid in a champion's kit, regardless of if it's in combat or out of combat is still "mobility"

Ashe Varus KogMaw are 100% immobile.

saltranOct 9, 20181 votes

Sure, so, you are talking about pro play or soloQ in this post?

Because these are two diferents things.

WøOxerOct 9, 20182 votes

Caitlyn doesn't look that bad for me, maybe very early game. But indeed Kai'Sa and Lucian are strongest adc's atm.

saltranOct 9, 20181 votes

Well, Caitlyn is exactly one of the weak adcs on soloQ and also ignored on pro play so I guess that she isn't strong at all.

ThefrostyvikingOct 9, 20181 votes

She isnt strictly speaking weak, or that is how i see it having played her.

But she isnt great vs tanks or highly mobile targets which makes her a way inferior choice to say kai´sa, lucian or even Vayne i guess.

Jhin if we are talking safety is also pretty great, his movespeed means that if he wants to run and isnt stunlocked then almost no one can catch him.

I just played MF yesterday and i got outrun by one who ran straight through my E, was quite the feeling.......i mean sure he had stormrazor and i only had basic boots+ghostblade but damn still.

Relia FortuneOct 9, 20182 votes

Who cares about the lane? Irelia Jax Zed Talon Camille Khazix Kayn Diana Kassadin Akali Rengar Shaco literally kill adcs with little effort. Try and tell me that my support can peel a one shot from most of these champions. Please.

8.11 killed adcs. Yes crit needed nerf, what we didn't need was a bs one shot meta to follow afterwards. Stormrazor became a problematic rush item breaking certain champions. Others suffered. That's why your precious Vayne Ashe Caitlyn Tristana aren't doing so hot right now vs the early game bullies Lucian MissFortune Jhin Draven