What stat is the most important, kda, gold per minute or something else?

Th3 Rift Hero··2 votes·1,195 views

I'm trying to find my best champs according to some stats but i dont know what stat to use for calculating my skills with the champion. I dont know if there is a better stat outside of winrate, the point is, i'm trying to play one game of each of my champions and i want to choose my mains from the results.

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Goroh1 votes

That seems incredibly time consuming and for the most part pointless. I got to Diamond this season by picking the champion i had the most fun with, and really enjoyed playing. I have 230 games on Gangplank with about 57% winrate. Its not about your stats from one or 2 games, or what stats are important, its what champion clicks with you the most.

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scurvy Wretch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Awmb56zE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-02T05:08:56.177+0000)

That seems incredibly time consuming and for the most part pointless. I got to Diamond this season by picking the champion i had the most fun with, and really enjoyed playing. I have 230 games on Gangplank with about 57% winrate. Its not about your stats from one or 2 games, or what stats are important, its what champion clicks with you the most.

i know but i want the betters odds for climbing out of bronze next season

Goroh1 votes

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i know but i want the betters odds for climbing out of bronze next season

Then take your time and learn a role you enjoy properly, stats are 100% irrelevant in bronze.

Mysticman892 votes

Incidentally, some of the most common advice to low elo players looking to climb is to stop playing so many champs.

Rather than play 1 game of like 130+ champs, play 130 games of 1 champ, and you'll climb a lot further in the same amount of time. It doesn't even matter what champ until you get to diamond or so.

Mysticman891 votes

Winrate really is the important one, and a sample size of one per champion isn't going to give you meaningful statistical data regardless. It could be useful to know what you qualitatively enjoyed playing most, but you'd need more like 30ish games per champ to getting more meaningful data, and even then it's going to be skewed towards champions that are easier to pick up compared to champs that need 100+ games to really start carrying with.

Outside of winrate, what stats are important are going to vary very heavily on the specific champion, and what role they play in the team comp (which isn't necessarily going to be the same as the role they got at champ select).

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

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Winrate really is the important one, and a sample size of one per champion isn't going to give you meaningful statistical data regardless. It could be useful to know what you qualitatively enjoyed playing most, but you'd need more like 30ish games per champ to getting more meaningful data, and even then it's going to be skewed towards champions that are easier to pick up compared to champs that need 100+ games to really start carrying with.

Outside of winrate, what stats are important are going to vary very heavily on the specific champion, and what role they play in the team comp (which isn't necessarily going to be the same as the role they got at champ select).

well sometimes there is hard champs like anivia that i learned very fast im pretty good for learning a champ on the go.

Mysticman892 votes

Since you mentioned your goal is to get out of bronze, that implicitly means you have tons to learn still about anivia, since you'll only really have mastered all there is to anivia by upper diamond or so.

I did glance at your OP.gg, and you should really be playing just nunu and anivia. The number of different champions you've played in ranked would probably make many coaches cry.

Goroh1 votes

What the fuck i just looked at your op.gg. If you'd just stick to playing your top 3 you'd be in platinum already.

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scurvy Wretch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Awmb56zE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-02T05:17:56.282+0000)

What the fuck i just looked at your op.gg. If you'd just stick to playing your top 3 you'd be in platinum already.

platinum? i mean, i have a struggle that when i play too much of a champ i get bored with him and start playing worse and lose streaks usually leave me wanting to change main, i don't really know what to do :(

Goroh2 votes

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platinum? i mean, i have a struggle that when i play too much of a champ i get bored with him and start playing worse and lose streaks usually leave me wanting to change main, i don't really know what to do :(

I'll tell you exactly what to do. Stick with Nunu Anivia and Garen , better your map awareness, and cut your deaths in half. Do that and you'll hit Silver V before the season ends

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scurvy Wretch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Awmb56zE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-10-02T05:24:37.420+0000)

I'll tell you exactly what to do. Stick with Nunu Anivia and Garen , better your map awareness, and cut your deaths in half. Do that and you'll hit Silver V before the season ends

well i used to main nunu more as support than jungle, i dont think it would work in higher elo and i retried playing garen recently but i suck with him now and he's so boring since i love more higher skill caps champs now, i'm so confused rn x(

Mysticman891 votes

....technically nunu was played as a support at worlds already. I mean it didn't win, and the circumstances were special, but still.

Feel free to one trick anivia. Or keep doing nunu support and don't worry about when it stops working (which would again be diamond or so assuming you really learn all there is to nunu support), since your goal is only to make it out of silver.

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

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....technically nunu was played as a support at worlds already. I mean it didn't win, and the circumstances were special, but still.

Feel free to one trick anivia. Or keep doing nunu support and don't worry about when it stops working (which would again be diamond or so assuming you really learn all there is to nunu support), since your goal is only to make it out of silver.

actually i have a lot higher goal i would like to be diamond someday even if it takes time xd

Mysticman891 votes

One step at a time.

And again, you can get at least diamond 5 playing literally anything, probably including nunu as support.

Goroh1 votes

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well i used to main nunu more as support than jungle, i dont think it would work in higher elo and i retried playing garen recently but i suck with him now and he's so boring since i love more higher skill caps champs now, i'm so confused rn x(

Well if you're still bronze 4 and you're looking to play high skill cap champs you're going to stay bronze 4, because instead of fighting the enemy team you're going to be fighting against your own champions mechanics

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scurvy Wretch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Awmb56zE,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-02T06:00:34.008+0000)

Well if you're still bronze 4 and you're looking to play high skill cap champs you're going to stay bronze 4, because instead of fighting the enemy team you're going to be fighting against your own champions mechanics

well im not good with all hard champs but there is some like anivia or akali that i love and that i'm good with

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

actually i have not been really accurate on my motives. i want to see my actual skill level with all the champs i got and find like 5 mains for every role from the stats.

Goroh1 votes

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actually i have not been really accurate on my motives. i want to see my actual skill level with all the champs i got and find like 5 mains for every role from the stats.

I can assure you if you plan on playing that many champs you wont be climbing very fast at all

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scurvy Wretch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Awmb56zE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-10-02T05:20:00.144+0000)

I can assure you if you plan on playing that many champs you wont be climbing very fast at all

well thats 5 in the unlikely case that all my better champs are banned i usually would stick to the first ones or two

Xion The XIV1 votes

The best way is CS. KDA doesn't matter because there are video of people with that only get assis and still win the game. Look at zero damage Tryndamere challenge. Also Singed type of players that can constantly die and be 2/9 but still win by the pressure.

No the most important part of the game is learning to CS. CS and Map awareness wins games.

Teriyaki Bukkake1 votes

You definitely need to play more than one game with each champ, you should at least be playing 10 per champ that you see as a possibility of you playing, and rejecting others that you think aren't you.

You need to play a lot of these champs because if you are going to main one, and you are using stats to decide whether you do or dont play a champion, your stats will be WAYYYYYYYY more accurate if you have larger amounts of data available.

Additionally, no one stat is the "most important": different roles that champions play with have more or less of a certain stat/s depending on what their role in the game. So when you compile your stats, have different classes of champions as your factors and your data as your variables. Eventually, after creating a data pool from which you gather your statistical mean from, you will see that in each class of champion there will be one out of the lot that you do better on in general.

So say you have a tank class and an assassain class; in your assassin games you will want more consistent damage throughout your games, which will be vastly different from your criterion for a tank which will want to take more damage rather than deal it.

Once you have an outlier for each class of champion, either use the winrates and preferences as your deciding factors as to if you play them or not, OR you could take them (the new pool of selected champions) into even more games to gather more data in order to see which one you really do like more/play better on!

That is of course, if you use data to select a champion, you could always just wing it and be a meta slave or just pick a champ thats fun and stick with it :P :)

Goodluck!

Quepha1 votes

Look into your heart because the best stat for finding a main is "Love"

Quepha1 votes

More serious advice: Your current skill with a champion is almost completely irrelevant because when you main a champion and stop spreading yourself thin then your skill level with that champion will rocket beyond your current level and you're Bronze 4 right now so you definitely have a lot of room to improve. Looking for a stat that would put a clear number on your "skill level" is a ridiculous concept but even knowing your skill level would be largely irrelevant.

If you want to climb effectively under your own power, then of the champions I see in your 'recently played' list Anivia stands out as a champion known to be very powerful in the right hands and capable of holding up a game almost completely by herself.

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