what to do when you can't exist? :/

Th3 Rift Hero··16 votes·6,997 views

Like, when youre a xerath vs a zed and you just dare doing a step forward to get a single minion and then the zed wqre-rape you when youre hugging the turret and then he escape full hp with you left one-shotted in tears with the anus burning in pain??? [sg-lux-2]

44 Comments

Disulfiram9 votes

Rush item 3157 If you use its active well you can live a whole 2,5 seconds longer, enough for Zed to maybe eat 1 tower shot.

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

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Rush item 3157 If you use its active well you can live a whole 2,5 seconds longer, enough for Zed to maybe eat 1 tower shot.

but, but, my core build :(

Paravozikchoocho2 votes

you either rush this or have your ass burnt.

Stars Shaper1 votes

And even then....

Disulfiram1 votes

As a Fiddlesticks player, zhonya IS my core build.

[sg-ahri-2]

Ifneth2 votes

Rush Seeker’s Armguard and take Perfect Timing, then build your first item. If you play well, then you should finish Zhonya’s Hourglass as a second item before needing the Stasis passive again.

FéliXXX2 votes

dude there is not a core build you have to build different items in every game mobafire wont win you games xD

nomani6 votes

That tends to happen when you completely disregard buying armor for 22 minutes.

S0kaX6 votes

That also tends to happen when you don't go full armor

Stars Shaper17 votes

Zed R + summoner 14 + item 3147 lols at any armor he can get before minute 22.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

Honestly my addvice to anyone against a Zed, take Cleanse or Exhaust.

Cleanse is really good against Ignite (good choice if you suspect that the enemy team will have a lot of Ignites).

But Exhaust will prevent 40% of the damage that Zed deals with his Deathmark (better choice if Zed is the only big threat on the enemy team).

nomani4 votes

item 3191 45 armor for 1100G you can have by 6 minutes.

It completely negates Duskblade, Youmuu's, and Sudden Impact.

On top of this, you also have barrier + resolve if you take it Zed will never kill you unless you're completely caught in a 1v1 from tower.

Th3 Rift Hero2 votes

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That tends to happen when you completely disregard buying armor for 22 minutes.

lol you seen my game, tbh i was lucky to get that smurf vayne to carry me xd

Noor Sakata6 votes

While I agree Zed is unfair to play against , but you were playing Xerath .. I don't know how you get into his W range when your Q itself has half of the lane as a range

Stars Shaper1 votes

Zed has potentially more range with his W-Q combo and can farm easily while you have to decide if you want to Q him or the minions.

Noor Sakata3 votes

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Zed has potentially more range with his W-Q combo and can farm easily while you have to decide if you want to Q him or the minions.

Uhm no , just no , if he wants to aa the minions , you can Q both him and minions W Q will do nothing , only 1 q will hit at most and w has a long cooldown so it's not spammable

Stars Shaper2 votes

Yes that can happen but any Zed worth his name will most likely use skills to farm when you have Q available.

Nyarlathοtep2 votes

Xerath has to cs with his aa from time to time during laning phase. Mages have no mana regen.

Noor Sakata1 votes

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Xerath has to cs with his aa from time to time during laning phase. Mages have no mana regen. Doesn't he get mana from Passive?

Nyarlathοtep1 votes

Which is tied to his aa. And unless he uses it on a champ, the mana is pretty low.

FéliXXX1 votes

you get mana from corruption pots which are so broken atm and you get mana from ur passive as well they reworked mages not too long ago and they dont have problems with their mana if they play well stop lying

Nyarlathοtep

http://na.op.gg/champion/xerath/statistics/mid

HMMM Apparently the optimal way of playing xerath isnt with corruption pots.

Th3 Rift Hero3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0VhxzOEn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-27T11:58:57.188+0000)

While I agree Zed is unfair to play against , but you were playing Xerath .. I don't know how you get into his W range when your Q itself has half of the lane as a range

oh tbh i could stay and farm at turret but then he would dive me

Noor Sakata1 votes

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oh tbh i could stay and farm at turret but then he would dive me He can't dive you unless he pokes you a lot or he got fed , as a Zed hater , but started playing him to know what his weakness is he can be brain dead , reached m7 on him

But he really can't dive you unless he is really fed or pokes you a lot then dive

Don't forget that he is the kind of champions who is supposed to do this anyway I mean , that's what Zed is good at , killing you , outside of lane , he has his problems , any Bruiser or Tank can shit on him not saying he is weak or something , no , he is just that kind of champion that will bully you no matter what as long as you are a mage

FéliXXX1 votes

100%bullshiet 0% facts nowdays mages has more base dmg ofc more range lower cds and zed has more counterplay like rly dudestop with that bullshit of ''zed has strong laning phase'' just stop you can play syndra (mage) and litteraly shit on a zed and its the same with a lot of mages not only that then you rush seekers and u cant die then there is 4567890 stopwatches and mages dont have mana problems in early if you play well like cmon you have 25 % on him LMAO stop talking about things that you DONT know how can you play akali swain and ahri and complain about zed????????

Noor Sakata1 votes

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100%bullshiet 0% facts nowdays mages has more base dmg ofc more range lower cds and zed has more counterplay like rly dudestop with that bullshit of ''zed has strong laning phase'' just stop you can play syndra (mage) and litteraly shit on a zed and its the same with a lot of mages not only that then you rush seekers and u cant die then there is 4567890 stopwatches and mages dont have mana problems in early if you play well like cmon you have 25 % on him LMAO stop talking about things that you DONT know how can you play akali swain and ahri and complain about zed????????

Lol ,You better learn english , I was defending Zed in this thread , but you are surely biased towards zed and no one should argue with you

FéliXXX1 votes

''Don't forget that he is the kind of champions who is supposed to do this anyway I mean , that's what Zed is good at , killing you , outside of lane , he has his problems , any Bruiser or Tank can shit on him not saying he is weak or something , no , he is just that kind of champion that will bully you no matter what as long as you are a mage''

bullshit so Lol ,You better learn english no one should argue with you :D you are just another no life zed hater that doesnt give any point but his opinion and doesnt give a fck about facts ot what high elo players says (im not saying im a high elo player) so thats it just another cringy zed hater [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

FéliXXX1 votes

dude is this for real? you know how hard you can abuse a zed as xerath? no wonder why you are lvl 250+ and still gold 5 holy its so easy to complain about everything

Warlord Rhinark5 votes

You feed.

WeAreTheRatClan14 votes

You do nothing, because you're not playing a braindead assassin that abuses summoner 14 too.

When you play real mages your only purpose in life is just being a waveclear bot, one that should never in their life try to go for kills because they'll just be feeding shutdown gold into the enemy assassins.

FéliXXX1 votes

yikes a guy who plays teemo yi and vaigar calls zed a braindead assassin

Stars Shaper4 votes

Honestly, Zeds are not a big issue in laning phase for me (I'm at silver level though xD). They tend to stay in the open and make good targets for Xerath's E and the following full combo that usually is enough for them to retreat a bit.

Just toss some Qs when they want to farm and try to keep minion waves under control. The real issues is when he roams and after laning phase, because it doesn't matter how good you did, your team will be an enormous nuisance for you and free food for him (unless he tilted already).

Th3 Rift Hero1 votes

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Honestly, Zeds are not a big issue in laning phase for me (I'm at silver level though xD). They tend to stay in the open and make good targets for Xerath's E and the following full combo that usually is enough for them to retreat a bit.

Just toss some Qs when they want to farm and try to keep minion waves under control. The real issues is when he roams and after laning phase, because it doesn't matter how good you did, your team will be an enormous nuisance for you and free food for him (unless he tilted already).

zed mains in gold are scary

Stars Shaper1 votes

Any Zed with common sense is. Xerath is countered by T2 Boots anyway.

FéliXXX1 votes

zed gets countered by summoner 21 summoner 3 item 3191 item 2421 item 3047 item 2033 item 3026 item 3813 item 3053 (you dont have to build all of them obviously)

Nyarlathοtep4 votes

You pray to a god that your team does good so they can carry you.

Th3 Rift Hero2 votes

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You pray to a god that your team does good so they can carry you.

i was super lucky this game xd

Vonyalo2 votes

Nothing. Strategy game btw

wildfox9T2 votes

if he's fed and you can't lane with him ask your top to swap your lanes many tanks/bruisers shit on assassins like zed,while many top laners will struggle getting near a xerath that freeze under his tower (just clear the wave and afk farm if you are behind,don't try to poke)

else if you can't play against zed others already said enough

esSse1 votes

I think you maximize your before they get their range and max your wave clear to farm from afar.

Glory971 votes

There isn't really much you can do, if the enemy champion is a hard counter to yours. (Let's assume that: Just completly outskill them isn't an option available xD)

But you can try to not get into such a bad matchup. As a sololaner, try to get lastpick, ask your teammates if you can first pick for them, so that you have a late pick position. And if you're forced to blindpick your matchup, pick something extremly save, that doesn't have too many bad matchups. For example Ahri Ekko, or something that is very good at roaming, so that you can do something elsewhere on the map TwistedFate Galio

SwiftKitten881 votes

Velkoz - EMBRACE THE VOID

FéliXXX1 votes

dafuq? then u r playing th wrong way xerath bully zed in lane zed can only trade every 22 seconds meanwhile u have a lot of range and lower cds and if he trades he wont get his scape so hes ez to gank u will always have lane priority and u can help ur jungler easily bying armor early deny armor pen stacking and you can run the pots strategy or resolve so you wont die btw you can rush zhonyas making him useless even in midgame when you are way more usefull and you wont have mana problems if you play that champ well edit: i forgot is always eassier to say zeds an op champ than learn a bit about the game sry

SangreDeNoche1 votes

Flame riot balance team like the rest of us for the cancerous work they've done in the past few years!

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