Wukong's lategame ult feels like a suicide.

Wukong Airlines··14 votes·1,236 views

It's fun when you ult someone past level 11, if a bruiser/tank they'll survive the damage since it takes a lot to apply the whole damage (yes 4 seconds is a lot of time, that if you were able to apply the whole duration on anyone) or cc you to get away.

Mages? either MS steriod, a dash, cc or just press zhonya. adc/hyper carries? no problem, lifesteal all of the damage dealt back to 100%
Assassins, well they have mobility but at least theyre the easiest targets to kill now in this meta.

even if you build full damage you wont last long in teamfights to deal decent amount of daamge and if you go tanky, you'll deal insignificant damage

If there's anything I'd like to see changed in Wu it's his Passive and ult, he deserves the Reksai treatment.

32 Comments

Ralanr7 votes

Wait...so a late game diver ult isn't meant to be a suicide tactics?

Wukong Airlines10 votes

Diana Nocturne tell me about it

Tails90162 votes

Hey, done right, they end up with an ace with no deaths on their team

Eedat4 votes

That's because it pretty much is suicide. Grab a item 3026 and hope your team has put in enough work off your engage so you can get out after you revive

Ben Sharpio3 votes

thats how i feel when playing Sion. Everyone has insane out-of-combat movement speed, you miss your ult by a millimeter, then get fucked by explosive damage.

If youre looking to play an engager, you're better off playing gragas. Since he has the safest and most reliable ways of engaging on multiple people....

Arakadia1 votes

I hate the ult for the times it does work, when he uses a combo you can't dodge and bursts you before you can CC him after falling to the ground.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Wukong need more than Rek'sai treatment. Even with a new passive and a new ult. He'll stay basic and his W is easly spottable at decent elo. But yeah having a dps ult is... weird.

Late game isn't so suicidal IMO, since we have item 3814... sadly this item is garbage atm.

But late game isn't really Wu issue, its his early during laning and jungle.

Btw, u monkey fellow can explain ur build ? its far from optimized.

Wukong Airlines1 votes

I try to test more builds on him and foundout crit is most effective than full lethelity or bruiser.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Im in constant test too*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

DaNinad1 votes

Get an Orianna on your team to ball you and let her get all the credit even though you did the work.

item 3070 I'm not depressed

Tobias Brackner1 votes

His ult isn't meant to kill targets, it's a team-wide CC.

You use it to tie up the enemy while the rest of your team blows them up.

Partholonian1 votes

and if you go tanky, you'll deal insignificant damage

Except to people who build 0 defense; they're usually pretty important to kill.

And anyway, if you're knocking up their whole damn team, why do you need to personally deal a ton of damage too? Don't you have teammates who can blow up those helpless targets?

I feel like you're asking for it to be a free 1v5, but nobody should have a free 1v5 button.

crzymdscntst1 votes

I always saw it as a item 3071 initiator. Shred a few enemy champ's armor for your ADC later-game. Stacked on his Q, it should feel effective... but it more is like Katarina's ultimate now, where it basically immobilizes his options.

inplane1 votes

I constantly try to ban MonkeyKing because he's aids to play against late game. Take one full combo from him and you're dead unless you build a lot of resistances. You usually can't stop it either because he's very fast at what he does. Feels like playing against a sneakier Yasuo who relies on surprises rather than a multitude of bullshit gapclosers.

NodirjonSattarov2 votes

you're joking right? Wu has been terrible for most of S7 and the last half of S6.

inplane1 votes

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you're joking right? Wu has been terrible for most of S7 and the last half of S6.

Not sure, really. Every time I faced a Wu, I lost. He just shreds squishies and denies Tanks from protecting their squishies thanks to invisibility and knockup. Plus he moves faster during his ult, so there's no escaping it once he's close enough.

Wukong Airlines1 votes

Sad part is whoever Wukong used to counter got either reworked, buffed or affected by new item changes which left wu completely weaker. Whats the point of having extra 3/6 armor and mr in laning phase? or an Ult that deals damage slowly which could be evaded or lifestealed?

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Wu's garbage.

noscopedGandhi1 votes

Leave the Monkey's ult alone! It's perfect as it is.

As for the passive, can we monkey lovers (giggity!) finally get one please?

LoLN0083 votes

you monkey lovers use protection, where do you think hiv comes from

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

perfect ? an ult dps for a bursty champ... hum

Danjeng1 votes

Wukong is from korien mythology, so it only makes sense that his ult is suicidal, since the koriens are known for committing a ritual known as supekku. Supekku was done in the world war where they got into helicopters and dove right into a 5-ship fleet to their deaths.

Wukong Airlines3 votes

Wukong is based on Chinese novel journey to the west Seppuku is a japanese tradition. nothing of what you said is Korean.

Danjeng1 votes

NO I am oreintal this is my cultural. belief me pls

Pierce The Veal3 votes

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Wukong is based on Chinese novel journey to the west Seppuku is a japanese tradition. nothing of what you said is Korean.

You're being trolled on so many levels.

Danjeng1 votes

it is not so nice to call oreintals troll because you think we are ugly .your veryy mean

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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it is not so nice to call oreintals troll because you think we are ugly .your veryy mean

I mean, I don't think orientals are ugly. I follow several chinese novels. Heck, many oriental ladies are hawt af. I thought you were trolling but now I think you're 12 lol.

Danjeng1 votes

im 13 so im old enough to play this game btw whats chinies novels?

LoLN0081 votes

how about giving him a movespeed passive and make his ult give like 5/10/15 resists for everyone you knock up. no idea what the passive would be tho

Danjeng1 votes

a movespeed passive

LoLN0081 votes

I meant idk how he would trigger the ms boost, but maybe his abilities could mark targets and his auto would pop it for a short ms boost like hitting a vital

Shadòw1 votes

well to compensate for that he can basically OS every squishy in early/mid game.

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