Why can Heimer's turrets deal damage to turrets but Zyra's plants can't?

SnugglePuggle94··3 votes·485 views

That doesn't really seem fair, does it? His turrets, including his ulted turret, can deal mega damage to turrets but Zyra's cant, and on top of that they take like two hits to kill (while Heimer's take a lot more).

Something's wrong here, am I right? Please fix, Riot.

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Flyer Beast2 votes

Heimerdinger RELIES ON HIS TURRETS. Plants aren't the biggest part of Zyra . I would let Zyra plants damage turrets, but I don't think Zyra needs plants like Heimerdinger turrets just cuz Heimerdinger turrets exist.

SnugglePuggle943 votes

Um, are you stupid? Yes she relies on her plants. Her Q and snare don't do all the damage.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Her Q an E have less base damage than most Supports and the ratio is at Support level, both with high mana costs and delays.

Flyer Beast1 votes

Look at it this way.

If Zyra ONLY had her plants she would bring nothing but a couple mini plants that you could burst or run away from to a teamfight IfZyra didn't have plants she would still have a nasty combo, of course not as efficient without plants but still.

Also, Downvoted. Explaining shouldn't be necessary.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

Well you are rude for downvoting for no reason. I think it's unfair that they can't damage the turrets while the stupid turrets of Heimer's can.

Flyer Beast1 votes

Which I said I'd change. Um, are you stupid? [zombie-brand-facepalm]

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Responding to that is just not necessary. Troll.

Flyer Beast1 votes

Downvoted Again, Troll. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Couldn't Resist.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Again. Troll.

Learn to be nice and not rude.

shaiith2 votes

On the same theme, why don't Zyra's vines damage towers? I mean we all know that plants affect the structural integrity of buildings by draining the walls of whatever substances they need and turn it into dust. A DoT while constricted would be acceptable.

Sneakyy XD2 votes

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That doesn't really seem fair, does it? His turrets, including his ulted turret, can deal mega damage to turrets but Zyra's cant, and on top of that they take like two hits to kill (while Heimer's take a lot more).

Something's wrong here, am I right? Please fix, Riot.

There are two reasons. The first is it's something Heimer's had for 6 years. The second is Zyra's plants are amazing while Heimer's turrets are terrible.

Mathbalnase1 votes

Why can Zyra's plants apply spell effects (like spellvamp, liandry's, etc) with every one of their attacks, but Heim's turrets only get them on their (dodgable, baitable, and far less frequent) lasers? Why can Zyra place her plants at substantial range while Heim is stuck placing his barely past melee range?

Why are two champions' abilities not completely interchangeable in every way?

Catastrop1 votes

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Why can Zyra's plants apply spell effects (like spellvamp, liandry's, etc) with every one of their attacks, but Heim's turrets only get them on their (dodgable, baitable, and far less frequent) lasers? Why can Zyra place her plants at substantial range while Heim is stuck placing his barely past melee range?

Why are two champions' abilities not completely interchangeable in every way?

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