Urgot kit makes more sense than the elise one

Why would they? They're talking about Urgot, not Elise. Bard's W heals for more over time.

Do you even understand what a kit means? Let's go over Elise's kit:

• She's a "shape-shifter". Can be either a human-like or a spider.
• In human form she can: "spit" poison (Q), summon a spiderling (W) and send a cocoon to trap enemies (E).
• In spider form she can: "jump"/attack an enemy (Q), "command" her spiderlings to attack faster (W), climb her web and rappel after (E).
• Her human form also allows her to get a spiderling for her spider form whenever she casts an ability (Passive)
• Her spider form gives her movement speed (passive).

How does this not fit her theme and thus make sense as a kit? You can clearly see Elise's theme. She's a spider-like humanoid and so she behaves like one.

##EDIT First let's talk about Urgot's THEME: What is Urgot? Does anyone really know this answer? That's part of the problem really; they don't have a good concept about his identity. For me, he's a cyborg type champion that uses his enhanced body in combat. Let's go over Urgot's Kit:

• His passive reduces the damage his targets deals everytime Urgot hits them with an attack or his Q.
• He can shoot a blade (Q)
• He gains a shield that slows whoever he attacks (W)
• He cast an ability that we allow him to send "targeted" Q's into anyone hit by the ability (E)
• He can switch places with an enemy, rooting himself and the target during the duration (R) Also gets combat buffs (damage reduction).

Passive, could make sense but you'd have to stretch your imagination a little. Maybe he uses poison to debilitate enemies; after all, he's from Zaun. His Q is fine. His W doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If he gains a shield then he's suddenly a figther champion, but that doesn't go well with his other abilities (Passive, Q and E are all "caster" abilities). His E works because of Q and only exists because of it. You'd never use his E if he didn't have his Q. What I'm saying is that the ability on its own is underwelming. His R also doesn't make sense. He can switch places with someone, but why? Why not a steroid in combat stats (which it does) that actually does something else useful, like a Poison cloud if we are going for the "poison" theme.

That's where the problem is. All his abilities could be use someplace else and be good there, but all together in Urgot won't work. If they keep his passive, then he needs a new R and a new W. His Q should stay and they should shift what E does to someplace else (maybe his passive).

Let's be honest. The reason why anyone would play Urgot is to use his Q and nothing else. You know who else is played because he's an AD caster? Ezreal. Urgot's kit doesn't make sense because the champion doesn't have an identity.