I just played a game where a Camille jg did nothing but gank all lanes.....

xxxMadLionxxx·Dec 25, 2016·42 votes·4,817 views

This was a very unfun game for my entire team. I don't think the Camille even bothered to go in her jg. All she did was gank with high success because her dash is just insane mobility.

I played mid and every time I ventured out of tower range, I got ganked. The funny thing is both bot and top was complaining about the same thing. This camille player knew what they were doing and simply abused the long range stun dash Camille has all during the laning phase. I'm sure its going to take riot a few months to admit, she is insane mobile pre lvl 6 and her ult is broken

50 Comments

Handy Sandy Dec 25, 201647 votes

If she's ganking all the time then ward and it'll be extremely easy to know her positions on the map. She ganks bot? Top pushes or you go roam for a countergank/dive top.

DepressedAhriDec 25, 201612 votes

I LIKE HOW YOU WERE DOWNVOTED FOR A LEGITIMATELY SMART RESPONSE.

GULAG 4 UDec 25, 201613 votes

Why use a brain when you can cry?????

XonraDec 26, 20161 votes

Why make a valid post, when you can just tell someone they are crying for an opinion you disagree with?

GULAG 4 UDec 26, 20161 votes

How many times to people make valid opinion posts? Hint, it doesn't happen often.

LA LostyDec 26, 20161 votes

Motto of the boards.

Handy Sandy Dec 25, 20162 votes

lmao u got downvoted too

LifaFreezeDec 26, 201610 votes

Not complaining but stating facts. I've warded against camille ganks top lane before and it's a hassle. she can come from behind you very easily or from the river or if you're pushed up she can come from the opposing tri-bush. The issue I've had is keeping the places warded so I don't get ganked like that and know where to expect it. It's most likely worse midlane because she can come from over the walls. I completely agree that knowing where she is is power but keeping the wards to know where she is can be difficult.

Supreme Senpai69Dec 26, 20163 votes

To be fair, bot can do this because two people warding + sightstone most of the time. Top can usually do this because there's only two openings into the lane, and one is rarely used. Mid has 8 openings. There's no possible hope to have it warded all the time.

VolkriDec 26, 20162 votes

I completely agree with you but in solo queue it's very difficult to do that due to lack of communication.

Handy Sandy Dec 26, 20161 votes

Then watch the map by yourself and roam when needed.

XonraDec 26, 20161 votes

Yup, roam 24/7 because your bot isn't warding enough.

I mean, I'm sure this sounds like a good thing to suggest, but that is how people fall behind really fast, and another laner starts snowballing off of you never being in lane.

THE RlVER KlNGDec 25, 201630 votes

Giving a champ a literal 'you can't leave zone' for 4 seconds on top of a stun and a slow is begging them to be an oppressive ganker.

JacknifeDec 25, 201616 votes

I'm not sure if I agree with Camille being broken, but a jungle that can support non-stop ganks is never a good thing.

Blackstone01Dec 25, 20161 votes

I can see her having long term number problems.

ElsewiseDec 27, 20161 votes

I remember when Roaming Alistar was a thing. Riot quite literally nerfed him out of the jungle.

CowseedDec 25, 201614 votes

#mapawareness?

MelledoneusDec 25, 20168 votes

I'm pretty sure if you're immobile and pushed halfway down the lane Camille can f*ck you over even if she's at Herald. Not saying it's broken, but certainly sounds irritating.

Maligaro SpikeDec 25, 201610 votes

if he plays immobile champs and is pushed halfway the lane he should've at least warded the river, hell i'm unranked and i know that too

MelledoneusDec 26, 201614 votes

Wards don't magically stop her from flying over half the lane like a god damn trapeze artist.

drakuIa421Dec 26, 20165 votes

if you're playing an immobile champ and you're pushing the lane knowing there's a jungler on the enemy team that has good ganks, its your fault for dying.

TheIronRevenantDec 26, 20162 votes

So just sit behind your tower and do nothing? k

XonraDec 26, 20161 votes

Not really.

When I am playing against someone immobile, I purposely LET them push. They have the option of following the wave and being easy ganked, or losing most of their CS, or they are having to burn a lot of mana to cs, and that is a whole other issue.

It isn't just a matter of "don't push noob", and anyone who thinks that knows a lot less than they think they do.

Maligaro SpikeDec 27, 20161 votes

sure but seeing her coming from the river grants you precious seconds for just clicking your tower or just getting away from the side of the river she's coming so she can't reach you with E.

Hecarim is much worse imho since with his E your wards doesn't matter since he runs at 1000ms towards you

MelledoneusDec 27, 20161 votes

He runs. Camille flies. At least he pushes you forward, Camille stuns you.

XonraDec 26, 20161 votes

Seeing someone with a ward doesn't CC them to stop them from still coming.

This is just becoming the wannabee Analyst response of "well you should have warded" as if Warding is stopping them from being faster and more mobile.

Seeing someone doing something isn't the same as stopping them from doing it, or even being able to.

XonraDec 26, 20161 votes

Map awareness only goes so far when you ping someone to becareful, they push up lane without wards.

You roam, they back off cause they think you are just coming to steal their farm (I've had people yell at me for ganking from top cause they legit thought I was coming to steal their CS)

You can't ward for your teammates nor have a psychic link to share your map awareness.

Maligaro SpikeDec 25, 201612 votes

if you complain about Camille jungler being broken then just wait to see LeeSin or Hecarim ganking your lane

Sun Wu RyuumokuDec 26, 20165 votes

is this really a QQ for Camille... jng ??? oh dmn

BlåbæretDec 25, 20164 votes

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This was a very unfun game for my entire team. I don't think the Camille even bothered to go in her jg. All she did was gank with high success because her dash is just insane mobility.

I played mid and every time I ventured out of tower range, I got ganked. The funny thing is both bot and top was complaining about the same thing. This camille player knew what they were doing and simply abused the long range stun dash Camille has all during the laning phase. I'm sure its going to take riot a few months to admit, she is insane mobile pre lvl 6 and her ult is broken

So you got rekt?

YFisfabulousBRUHDec 26, 20164 votes

hahaha in a nutshell yes

PiVoRxDec 26, 20164 votes

When i saw range of that hook i knew there will be issue with Camille jungle, you just cannot not abuse that combo with her ult.

MLDzXnRRRDec 26, 20163 votes

If she is ganking and not getting kills/assists, she is behind in xp/farm. You could play safe and ward. Rammus Hecarim LeeSin can do the same thing.

RozairDec 26, 20163 votes

wow are you serious camilles e at level 1 is 18 seconds. Insane mobility? Are you flipping serious. Yes it scales to 6 at max level with 40% cdr. Camille has a slow clear time in the jungle. Her pre 6 is terrible. Get your facts straight. Also Poppy is a hard hard hard counter for camille.

Pakku Ito Dec 26, 20161 votes

anyone with cc is a hard counter to Camille, her dash can be interrupted pretty easy lol

NoobTangerangDec 26, 20161 votes

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wow are you serious camilles e at level 1 is 18 seconds. Insane mobility? Are you flipping serious. Yes it scales to 6 at max level with 40% cdr. Camille has a slow clear time in the jungle. Her pre 6 is terrible. Get your facts straight. Also is a hard hard hard counter for camille.

Because everyone wants to/can play Poppy, right?

TargonDec 25, 20162 votes

The range on her dash should be reduced or at the very least, the stun should be removed. Another possibility would be to prevent her from using hookshot through terrain (similar to Kled and Vayne's dashes).

ZerenzaDec 26, 20162 votes

She is overtuned but fear not nerfs coming next patch, her base AD is actually being reduced from 62-60 and that's REALLY important as a tri-force champion. Scaling on her Q's second hit is being reduced by 15% so there you go. Now for champions that are good against camille.

Any champion with a powerful knockback, untargetability or a Spell shield can stop a camille ultimate and have nowhere near the issues with her that other champions do. Alternatively if you have a revive your probably gonna be alright too.

Top Trundle Poppy Kennen Jayce Gnar Kayle

JG LeeSin Volibear Shyvana Hecarim Nocturne

Mid Corki Ekko Fizz Lissandra Orianna

Support TahmKench Janna Lulu Taric Zilean

ADC Vayne Sivir Tristana Kalista Note: Kalista's ultimate can pull someone out of "Hextech Ultimatum" and as long as you don't launch them before the duration ends, they will be fine.

The thing is that most of these champions aren't popular and she counter's a huge amount of other champs in the game so no one really knows what to do, but all of these champions have a much easier time against her.

In addition, Banshee's Veil, Edge of Night and Zhonya's Hourglass will stop camille's ultimate if timed correctly.

Jusuf HabibieDec 26, 20165 votes

The Base AD nerf and the Q2 scaling nerf were a mid-patch hotfix so they are already implemented for around a week. Nevertheless, I have her Rank 6 30k mastery points and I will admit she is overtuned at the moment.

This is a game I had after the hotfix where I did really well - http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1591303816/215435825?tab=overview

ZerenzaDec 26, 20161 votes

I really think the slow on her W needs to be removed then she'll be fine.

RozairDec 26, 20161 votes

not the right nerf for her.

ZerenzaDec 26, 20161 votes

How so? a 90% decaying slow is pretty oppressive and doesn't really make that much sense on her. People already can't escape her easily, she already has great mobility. Why does she need a 90% slow?

Jusuf HabibieDec 27, 20161 votes

Maybe not go as far as removing it, but making it scale with level whilst also reducing it by... say 10% so at max rank it's an 80% slow. Bruisers need CC to stick to their target and Camille's stun only last 1 second. Also a nerf on the attack speed she gets from her e would be reasonable.

YFisfabulousBRUHDec 26, 20161 votes

If she was constantly ganking like what you said, then her mana runs out like a bitch. Without blue she wouldnt be able to repeatedly gank more than 3-4 times

A Basic IslandDec 26, 20161 votes

yup. saw the huge double dashes during champ select and was like this cant be serious

ontop of everything else already in her kit why does she need to dash further than 2 yasuo ultimates

CobaltTheMadMageDec 26, 20161 votes

I feel like she gets too much too soon; either make her squishier by default and have her depend more on her passive to survive quick-in, quick-out style burst/ganks, or have some of her stuns and CC scale with ability level and start out weaker.

ForeverLaxxDec 26, 20161 votes

Why is roaming considered a problem, again?

I know Riot likes to change the game so that people don't have to learn it, think about it, or even try in order to be successful, but at some point you're going to understand that sometimes people are just better at the game than you are. You get good, or you cry about it. Seems you chose the latter.

lolipopevelynnDec 27, 20161 votes

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This was a very unfun game for my entire team. I don't think the Camille even bothered to go in her jg. All she did was gank with high success because her dash is just insane mobility.

I played mid and every time I ventured out of tower range, I got ganked. The funny thing is both bot and top was complaining about the same thing. This camille player knew what they were doing and simply abused the long range stun dash Camille has all during the laning phase. I'm sure its going to take riot a few months to admit, she is insane mobile pre lvl 6 and her ult is broken

because LeeSin Rammus Evelynn Shaco doesn't go around ganking all lanes rather than farm there own jg.