Can we make trascendence into : gain 1% cdr per lvl, caps at lvl 10 at 10%

Rexxiee·May 15, 2018·46 votes·11,099 views

You can even nerf its bonus ad/ap for going over the cap or whatever, giving nothing until lvl 10 just feels so trash and its not like its an powerful scaling rune, 10% cdr is worth like not even 300g...

Hell lets go further, make it a 2% cdr per lvl capping at lvl 5/10% and then completely remove the whole overstacking cdr bonus ap/ad.

This rune was supposed to be the replacement for ppl that went with flat cdr runes early game/needed them in lane, now theres nothing to replace that 10% that champions like riven lost, which is also making her a bit weaker than she should be.

18 Comments

SalronMay 15, 20188 votes

This rune was supposed to be the replacement for ppl that went with flat cdr runes early game/needed them in lane

Seems more like it was made to replace the 10% scaling CDR runes that some people ran

RexxieeMay 15, 201810 votes

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Seems more like it was made to replace the 10% scaling CDR runes that some people ran

The problem is that they tried to combine both in 1 rune that didnt end up replacing either properly.

The rune just kind of sucks.

TeCoolMageMay 15, 20181 votes

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The problem is that they tried to combine both in 1 rune that didnt end up replacing either properly.

The rune just kind of sucks.

For riven it might be bad, but for mages it's really really strong

YumaS2AstralMay 15, 20182 votes

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For riven it might be bad, but for mages it's really really strong

Yeah it is not a bad rune, that's like saying that Gathering Storm is bad just because you don't feel its benefits until level 10, or like saying that Ravenous Hunter is bad because you don't feel its benefits until you kill people.

Transcendence can be really good in some situations. I use it when I have a champion that can easily overcap CDR or that desperately needs 40% CDR (like Vlad).

RexxieeMay 15, 20184 votes

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Yeah it is not a bad rune, that's like saying that Gathering Storm is bad just because you don't feel its benefits until level 10, or like saying that Ravenous Hunter is bad because you don't feel its benefits until you kill people.

Transcendence can be really good in some situations. I use it when I have a champion that can easily overcap CDR or that desperately needs 40% CDR (like Vlad).

Gathering storm is very strong because it actually gives huge numbers as the game goes on.

Thats why it has to be bad early game, or it would be too strong.

Transcendence just gives you 10% cdr and some minor bonus/ap/ad if you do a bad build, thats it.

ChaosThiefMay 15, 20181 votes

Some champions will build a lot of CDR items because they need the bonuses those items give. That doesn't necessarily mean the build is bad because it overdoes the CDR.

Unless you're actively trying to build as much CDR as possible, it should be fine.

TeCoolMageMay 16, 20182 votes

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Yeah it is not a bad rune, that's like saying that Gathering Storm is bad just because you don't feel its benefits until level 10, or like saying that Ravenous Hunter is bad because you don't feel its benefits until you kill people.

Transcendence can be really good in some situations. I use it when I have a champion that can easily overcap CDR or that desperately needs 40% CDR (like Vlad).

Any champion that wants CDR and has access to at least 20%, will always want to get as close to 40% as much as possible ASAP. With a few extreme exceptions, most mages will need to rush 3 CDR items to reach 40% (1 lost chapter item, then 2 of any common mage CDR item) as early as possible, most don't, but even if you do it's really hard to get 3 items before lvl 10.

CDR's relative DPS increase actually becomes better as you approach the 40% cap. So Transcendence either sets you up to get to the 40% cap, gives you the 40% cap early/at all, or gives 20 AP if you're extremely ahead and rush 3 CDR items which is good in itself anyway

longer explanation here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/B3kWBlWr-quick-gameplay-thoughts-may-11?comment=009b

Snowman ArcMay 15, 20184 votes

Honestly, with so much CDR in the game, I believe the real reason for this rune is to grant you some bonuses for going over the CDR cap.

SalamencęMay 15, 20184 votes

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Hell lets go further, make it a 2% cdr per lvl capping at lvl 5/10% and then completely remove the whole overstacking cdr bonus ap/ad.

No.

Tahminatrix May 15, 20182 votes

Hes right, I prefer to have that extra 80 ap late game, this rune competes with gathering storm lmfao.

But seriously , I don't see why we cant have one of the more useless runes be changed to give 10% cdr when taking damage/in combat..otherwise poke champs would cash in on this and I really don't want to see poke oriented laners with more cdr....especially the no mana ones.

Automated RivenMay 15, 20182 votes

As much as I miss 10% cdr at level 1. They should just change it to be 10% at level 1. 1% per level is almost useless (if it wasn't riven would be speccing into the 5% at level 1 from the other mastery) and the other idea is ok I guess as you can take both and hit 9 cdr at level 2 so that would at least help.

KZ EngelMay 15, 20181 votes

even if it's not worth very much gold, it's still highly efficient. frees up third item slot for vlad so he can get oblivion orb and liandry's earlier

AyzevMay 15, 20181 votes

While we're at it, make Gathering Storm increase its stats gradually over time in a similar manner instead of having it spike out of nowhere once in a while.

koshkyraMay 15, 20182 votes

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While we're at it, make Gathering Storm increase its stats gradually over time in a similar manner instead of having it spike out of nowhere once in a while.

So basically it gives the same stats over time but it gives you them more frequently,

Eg: 4 AP @ 5 mins, then 8 ap @ 10 mins instead of just 8 ap @ 10 mins?

I can get on board with that.

Its All SkillzzMay 15, 20181 votes

I think its a great rune, esp when i play double tear ezreal and my gauntlet/triforce + archangels puts me over the cdr cap already, so i benefit extra ad/ap depending on what one i went. it pretty much makes playing ez get free stats from building alot of his better items that have tons of cdr.

LordGeovanniMay 15, 20181 votes

ap for going over the cap could be nerfed even though i dont think its needs to be since only supports and mages willing to build item 3115 can access it much. Nerfing it for ad would make it a useless ad pick up.