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Pyke's Passive Scaling

Zerenza··1 votes·5,756 views

So i decided i'd do some math based on a Previous post, stating that most likely Pyke's Health to AD conversion will be based on Gold Value(IE: 13 HP=1 AD) in terms of gold value so with that in mind let's make the most optimal build for him(without a full support build.)

item 3071 400HP= 30 AD item 3053 450HP=34 AD

These two items seem pretty core to me on him, like Steraks prevents you from being Bursted since he can't build health, and without health you shouldn't really build many resistances because as we know, without enough health your resistances become pretty useless. That's why i think a start of Black Clever into Steraks will be absolutely broken on the guy.

Let's assume that Pyke's Base AD is the same as Zed's(though it's probably not) this means at level 11(the most likely state that he has both of these items) he'll have 92 base AD+46(steraks bonus 50% base AD)+34+30+40 AD

Pyke would have, assuming he has perfect Gold income conversion with his HP to AD 242 AD with these two items. That's pretty damned good guys and he'll still have Steraks passive to give him a nice bit of effective tankiness.

Now after these items i'd probably go for a Deaths Dance for even more effective Tankiness, i mean after you buy it you'd have about 322 total AD, then round off the build with either more Health Items or more AD items, depending on what you need, but i think that BC+Steraks is probably the best core build on him.

What do you guys think?

13 Comments

Bunnymap3 votes

Riot has said that his health scaling will be “unfavorable” so I’d imagine that it wouldn’t be gold efficient.

iPooUnicorns2 votes

I would stay away from Sterak's on Pike because its shield scales off of bonus health, which will always be 0 for him.

I expect his build to look something similar like:

item 3401 item 1001 item 3147 item 3142 item 3071 item 3036

Other potentially good items on him: item 3748 item 3742item 3078 item 3800 item 3022 item 3109 item 3193 (if the health increase is treated as bonus health this will be incredibly cheesy on him)

Zerenza1 votes

Crap i forgot it scales off of bonus health, then again so does Titanic Hydra damage, I don't think any item that gives Just Resistance will be good on him because of the fact he can't build any health to help it out so i'd cut out deadmans too gargoyle's too because i imagine he can't gain the health from it. Now what i hope is that steraks still has a shield even though he converts all bonus HP to AD, he still technically has bonus health it's just converted first, if so then steraks is great, if not then it's not.

iPooUnicorns1 votes

The resistance items wouldn't be rush items, rather items to help him force fights/catch enemies out of position later into the game. Additionally his damage ratios are supposedly weak compared to other assassins, so resistances will probably be better than more damage after getting penetration.

5050BS1 votes

I was playing around and feel I settled on this odd build

item 3071 item 3022 item 3151 item 3072 item 3074item 3156

He ends with about

AD: 490 Armor: 125 MR: 120 CDR:30%

Your attacks slow, Q and E burn targets for 2% max HPs, you do up to 10% more damage the longer you fight. Attacks heal you and make a shield. Maw gives a shield

Ult kills anyone under 1300 HPs

Mysticman892 votes

I suspect they'll want buying AD directly to be more efficient than buying HP and have it be converted.

I feel like the idea isn't that he should stack AD+health items, but they want to guarantee that he is super squishy, but at the same time not have pyke players feel too bad about buying stuff like the eye items (and as an added bonus, relic shield is now an "ad" item for him).

Expecting lethality (duskblade especially) to be pretty core. So item 3401 item 3158 item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 item 3071 with the boots being pretty flexible, maybe rolling with transcendence to deal with all that spare cdr, or swapping out bc for executioners.

Asterfix1 votes

Hey if he gets good health scaling item 3083 might be a good late game item. It essentially becomes 60 bonus damage and can regen to full in around 8 seconds with his passive. If he gets to 3000 health on his own.

Mysticman893 votes

No champion in the game currently has 3k+ hp base health even at level 18, with galio having the most at 2466 health at level 18.

Don't think they'll give him crazy base scaling given he's more an assassin than some sort of tank.

5050BS1 votes

He gets 2471 at lvl 18 (at least thats what he had in the my game)

Deeto Devito1 votes

kled, although it is technically split between 2 health bars, gets the highest at 2950 at level 18

5050BS1 votes

He cant get to 3000 hps

Twitchimus Prime1 votes

considering any lifesteal items?

Rezorrose1 votes

Grasp of undying on Pyke yah or na

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