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so I just got wrecked as ADC in consecutive games and realized I have no idea what to do when behind

ValyrianBlade··7 votes·2,831 views

Hi,

I just recently hit level 24. I played co-op versus AI for a few levels off of the start, blind pick until around level 14-15, and have exclusively done draft pick since (outside of first win of the day). I've gained a lot of experience in various roles, but due to my initial champion (Tristana, since she was free from facebook) and lack of people playing ADC anyways I ended up as an ADC main (I'm trying to play Ahri mid as often as I can lately to have a strong second option).

ADC is my bread and butter. Up to level 24, I can honestly say that I never lost lane. Not once. I won lane in about 80% of my games and came out even in the rest. Up until today, when it happened and I had no idea how to react.

I'm going to be fairly thorough on what happened because I know exactly what my first mistake was, but want to identify any subsequent mistakes, and what to do in these scenarios. I figure I learn best in this game by doing, but I don't want to intentionally start losing lane to practice coming back obviously! So this will have to do.

My last two games, I got WRECKED. I played Caitlyn both games (I main Caitlyn and Tristana, Tristana was banned both games). The first, not bad. Something like 0-3, but I had nearly double the CS of anyone else on the map the first time I checked (I was at 83 and the next highest was 47) and still considerably more than anyone else at the end of the game. I thought it was no big deal, not my fault. My support didn't buy a gold income item and kept attacking my minions. I was focusing a lot on telling my support to stop CS'ing and trying to steal cs from my support that I figured that's what caused me to be unable to react appropriately to ganks or to Leona leashing on to me and stunning me to send me 100-0. So I brushed it off, I lost lane but my mistake was worrying about my support when I should worry about myself - I wouldn't make the same mistake, so I tried to play another game.

Big mistake. I'm hoping I tilted, but honestly I doubt it. We were red side, went towards jungle. I went to run in just to put in a deep ward, but the mid and jungle followed me so I figured why not invade? We ran in to their Blitzcrank and dealt some damage, and their Ashe and J4 showed up. We battled 3v3, Blitz grabbed our Vi under his turret, Lux killed Blitz for first blood, turret killed Vi for them, then Lux and I ran and Lux was killed trying to get away. 1 for 2 trade, not good but not terrible. Then we start farming, and since my summoners are both down I get grabbed by Blitz and killed. I had almost 400 gold, not nearly enough for anything helpful, so I just grabbed 5 health pots and a vision ward. I was thinking as I do when I'm ahead though. I buy an early pink ward and throw it in the little bush near dragon and get really early vision of any incoming ganks so I can safely push lane as far as I want, and better yet it typically stays there for a long time (10+ minutes). Again, clearly a big mistake, I run back too lane by the river since I see the minion wave is reset and there's plenty of room to run in behind my minions. As I near the river bush (they must have had a ward in it) Ashe starts moving towards me, hits me with her volley to slow, hits a couple more, Blitz grabs me, knocks me up, I get killed 100-0. I'm suddenly 0/2/1 and still level 1. I grab a second Dorans Blade because that's my normal strategy if I'm forced to back early.

So that's how I got to the position. I'm not planning on letting it happen again. Let's say though it does, what do I do? I'm around level 2 (got it on the next creep) and already 2 levels behind both the ADC and Support. Leona is just hugging tower the whole time and not getting xp, so she's also level 2. We try to wait for minions to come to tower and farm under tower, but without our own minions to hide behind I realized Blitz can grab me so much easier and pull me away from safety (the had way, now 0/3/1). We're in lane level 2 against level 5s, our level 5 mid laner and jungler come down to gank or something but it just pushes them back and resets the minion wave (depriving me of farm once they leave). I wait and CS some more under turret, we're level 3 versus 6 and Ashe lands her ultimate on me under tower fairly easily, Blitz obviously has no problem grabbing me when stunned, and suddenly 0/4/1. I grab a third Dorans. Last a bit long the next time, but we're being zoned ridiculously. I escape the next attack, recall and reluctantly buy a fourth Dorans (at this point I figure the game is lost since our other lanes aren't winning anyways and I have no idea what to do). Ashe and Blitz started roaming to mid, so I finally got some free farm bottom. Took out a few waves, took the turret (was this a mistake?) and eventually got a Phantom Dancer and T1 boots. So I'm sitting on 4x Dorans, PD, T1 boots versus Ashe with T2 boots, Statik Shiv, BF Sword and Pickaxe. At this point I'm trying to stay with my team and farm when I can. I'm targeted and really can't do anything though. Basing constantly, basically given up. We for some reason don't surrender at 20. We surrender at 25.

What could I have done at 0/2? How could I have prevented this?

31 Comments

Worgslarg11 votes

Regarding your build, never go more than 2 dorans; and never, ever first item phamdancer. IE is the best first item on everyone except Lucian(IMO, but debatable), Corki, Kog'Maw, and Ezreal. All that attack speed and minor crit chance does nothing without the AD to back it up.

On a gold-dependent class of champions, if you are that far behind in lane, there is almost no comeback aside from a laneswap or forcing teamfights.( Both of which are more complicated than you would expect anyone at your level to be able to manage)

You need to focus on not getting that far behind. As soon as you start to lose lane, you need jungler help.

Regarding your cs, as the adc you should be able to grab most cs before your support can take it. However, every death gives the enemy 20+ free cs. NEVER go into a bad position for cs. Your cs in relation to the enemy adc is what matters, not overall.( if both adc's are behind, but you have lower gold than them, you still lose)

The other thing you need to do is start taking jungle camps( wraiths, golems) when the minion wave is pushed beyond a safe point where you could farm.

TL;DR If you go 0-2, you need to play like a complete bitch and farm, waiting for a jungler gank( if you can get mid to roam bot aswell, the 4v2 will transition into a free dragon)

MrBuffington1 votes

IE is the best first item on everyone except Lucian(IMO, but debatable), and Ezreal

You're forgetting about Corki and Kog'Maw

Worgslarg1 votes

TY- Fixed main post

MrBuffington1 votes

np :D

Exxem5 votes

From a jungler's perspective: Once that lane is lost, you aren't gonna get much help unless mid agrees to roam down. Showing up to a lane that is too far behind is just begging for an enemy triple kill. Best case scenario, no one dies, but the jungler just gets further behind when he could be applying pressure to another lane that still has a chance of saving the game.

Also, please don't be taking jungle camps when the jungler is on his way to them... Talk to him first, and work something out if need be, but he needs gold income too. Can't ahve everyone falling behind.

#equalityforjunglers

ValyrianBlade2 votes

I'll just note that I went PD because I never had enough to back for BF sword. my normal build starts with IE but as was mentioned I panicked by not knowing what to do and just built what I could. All I'd the advice is extremely helpful and much appreciated! !

cshakes4 votes

You could buy a Pickaxe first.

sp4413 votes

And if you take the Jungle Camps AS the Jungler is doing it, you're an asshole.

Seriously, that happened to me SO MANY TIMES. And it's always the greedy 7/3/6 Assassin with 204 CS 24 minutes into the game.

12tales1 votes

Regarding your build, never go more than 2 dorans; and never, ever first item phamdancer. IE is the best first item on everyone except Lucian(IMO, but debatable), Corki, Kog'Maw, and Ezreal. All that attack speed and minor crit chance does nothing without the AD to back it up.

Twitch and Vayne rush BotRK, and Sivir/Lucian/Graves/Draven and maybe a few others can rush Ghostblade to great effect.

/pedant

cshakes1 votes

Ehh, Vayne and Twitch typically like to go Blade of the Ruined King -> Youmuu's Ghostblade, with IE as a 3rd or 4th item after boots and maybe Last Whisper. And Lucian can really just build anything that gives AD.

Spiritun1 votes

You forgot Vayne...

SquirrellyOtter6 votes

I apologize in advance for the Great Wall of Text. TL:DR: 1) If you fall behind in League, you stay behind, and 2) you just need better supports.

As a scrub myself, I can't attest to your every issue (especially regarding item builds when falling behind), but if I may, I'd like to answer a couple of your questions and concerns from a top-level, global analysis.

I think the "right or wrong" of your turret-grab is very context/situation-dependent:

  1. On the one hand, you're getting much needed gold for items, which obviously helps you and will help your team in the long run. Split-pushing is a pretty common answer to teams who are grouping up, and while Cait may not be the optimal split-pusher in terms of dealing with whomever the enemy team sends to stop you, she's got great wave-clear to make the push happen.

  2. On the other, if your team didn't respond or didn't respond well to the enemy roaming and/or grouping, your mid is now getting its shit kicked in and you aren't directly helping mid, so if the enemy group presence outweighs your team's group presence, might as well be GG.

  3. Regardless of your team's situation, if you lack items, you can't contribute to the teamfights anyway (as you probably experienced when you did join the rest of your team). Basically, if you fall behind/start feeding, there's not a lot of chance of you coming back without a lot of luck and severe enemy mistakes, and of course they didn't get ahead by making mistakes early on, why would they start now. It's a snowball that turns into an avalanche.

If I had to guess on your major problem, it's your supports, and sadly there is extremely little you can do about that.

I've had CSing/KSing supports (I've even had a teamkilling support once who took Zilean bombs and ran them to me and killed me at least twice) and they are the absolute scum of humanity. As a ADC/support main, I typically have a better time playing support than ADC because I can't always rely on my support to do his job, and I know enough about mechanical play and actually being a good support to help my team. (I also refuse to be a troll in gameplay, which is more than I can say for a huge amount of the player population.)

The other thing I will note about supports in regard to your second game is simply the mechanical counter Blitz is to Leona. Leona is a super-aggressive, dive-heavy all-in melee support, but Blitz tends to thrive in melee combat (he has a knockup, an attack speed boost, an AOE silence, and a shield passive). Without even doing research, I'd guess Blitz is a very hard counter to Leona, which makes her job infinitely more difficult, which makes your job as ADC damn near impossible. From that perspective, the game was lost at pick/bans, and that's how it is for a lot of games (arguably the best/second-best LCS team in North America, Cloud9, will not be advancing to the World Championship Semifinals because of their mid-laner's tiny champion pool allowed him to be banned and countered very easily). The only answer is to make sure you (and hopefully the rest of your team) have a broad enough champion pool so you don't get easily banned and countered.

The current draft mode in normals and solo queue ranked is probably the worst for this idea though, because your placement in your team's select and your team's side is random, so you may not get the opportunity to counter and have to commit to a lane and champion blind early on, allowing the enemy to counter you at their leisure. Having a friend/party or a ranked team will help a lot better, and it gets even better once you and your team have massive champ pools to trade with each other during the Free Phase of champ select (as you see in every LCS game, team members rarely pick their own lane's champions, but rather pick on behalf of their teammates and trade to their proper lanes/players after the last lock-in).

Again, sorry for the wall, and I hope this helped you get a little more insight into League. Good luck!

cshakes1 votes

Actually, I've found that level 2-6 Leona counters Blitz; she gets a free gapcloser and can Q the enemy ADC and put her shield on, leveling her E on level 3. She can also snipe the enemy ADC with her ult. Blitz counters squishy champs with no mobility skills. Leona counters anything that can't interrupt her dash (Thresh, Janna) or invalidate her CC (Morgana).

ValyrianBlade2 votes

The wall of text is very helpful

Theorchero2 votes

Without even doing research, I'd guess Blitz is a very hard counter to Leona, which makes her job infinitely more difficult,

Actually, Leona counters blitz because shes' way too tanky to be killed from just being pulled and he puts her right where she wants to be, In the middle of your team. It's the same principle as to pulling an Amumu. He may be a little ahead of his team, but it makes a 5 man stun worth it because they will still be grouped up long enough for further crowd control and aoe damage to be dealt before they can reposition.

FantasySniper5 votes

Mistakes:

  1. Invading against a Blitz and Ashe combo. Why: They are a very powerful CC combination even at Lv 1 Solution: Don't invade teams with strong Lv 1s, and try to make sure they don't invade you
  2. Riskily warding Why: Life > Ward Solution: You can actually ward over walls, or just focus on not dying
  3. More than 2 Doran's Blades Why: You're unnecessarily spending gold at that point when it could be better spent, especially since selling them is inefficient Solution: Spend it on a Longsword, more pots, or even some boots.
  4. Staying in the lane Why: Although this is more arguable, there are better things you can do than stay under tower and let them dominate your lane Solution: Farm jungle creeps, let them take tower so your jungler can come, just be more useful than an out-of-reach moneybag
  5. Rushing Phantom Dancer Why: The AS and Crit Chance is worthless without any AD Solution: Rush Infinity Edge because of its huge damage spike, or BoTRK if you're the type of champion to use it.

Other than these mistakes, things were out of your control. Poor supports are common because most don't bother to learn the role. If you really want, you should focus on your solo-lane to avoid it until you get to the point where this doesn't pose a problem anymore.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

Very good info, thanks!

lorewise4 votes

You're both lucky and unlucky that this hasn't happened already. Unlucky in that you have no experience and that made you panic, and from that first kill forward you remained panicked and unable to focus. I'm going to start by quoting something you said that I think deserves attention.

"...and since my summoners are both down I get grabbed by Blitz and killed."

This should read, "I was out of position and they knew my flash was down." I only say this to point out that you knew your flash was down, and if Blitz hooked you, it's because you were out of position and not paying attention. Otherwise I think you've done well to analyze what happened and take responsibility for your own mistakes.

In that situation though, if you can't get any help from Jungle or Mid, and if your Top lane isn't willing to swap, you're just going to have to CS under turret. It sucks, and trying to CS under turret while getting harassed especially sucks. But... it's going to happen, and it's going to happen more frequently as your MMR increases.

If you're interested in watching videos to learn there's an excellent series of lectures here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/unswlolsoc

Every single one of those videos has invaluable information regardless of how long you've been playing. So even if you think you can skip over the "basic mechanics" videos I'd highly suggest watching them.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

Will take a look, thanks.

Moonshade3 votes

Ward like mad especially vs a Blitz lane, if your support isn't doing enough u grab some since u need to be able to see the Blitz at all times and keep minions between u and him. If he has a clear line he will snag u even if its with his pinky finger. When u get that behind ur main goal is to CS as much as u can and essentially beg ur jungle to camp lane since if u can get even one kill off on their adc or kill their support u can push them back for fear of counter poke. The main goal is to CS as much as u can and try to get as much gold as u can to get up to par with her. Sometimes she'll get too far ahead and u guys will be doomed but if you're able to focus her in teamfights (especially if shes the only big threat) and the rest of your lanes are fairly even u should do well. Big thing is never give up since eventually she'll finish her build and won't be getting any stronger, and if shes hogging team kills then shes starving the rest of her team kills and the gold that comes with them, while if your team can get good pick offs u will be able to catch up eventually if they don't crush u first. I've seen it happen before where the carry hogs too much gold and the rest of the team falls behind while the enemy team slowly creeps up and can start to win team fights via removing that one fed target

ValyrianBlade2 votes

Okay that's really helpful. I'm not one to think that far in advance I guess, I've had more lately but most of my games never make it to late game. normals seem so lopsided, either all your lanes win or none of them win. I've actually had that before though where I was a fed carry (24/5 at mid game) and ran out of stuff to build and ended up losing. Must have starved my team so good to think of that as all.

Thanks! !

Solidair33 votes

When you're behind, your only option is to farm, farm, farm, and try not to die more. It's really hard to catch up to the opposing carry when they're already ahead. Really you just have to hope for ganks and that some of your teammates are fed.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

Just to everyone who's replied, This is a tonne of valuable information and I really appreciate it! Thanks!

Khodexus2 votes

I mained Caitlyn for a long time, and I've never liked buying a second doran's blade. Tried it once or twice early on, but it just never did that much for me. I think getting a longsword and then upgrading it into a vampiric scepter is ALOT more useful. Now, my current build with Cait rushes Essence Reaver and then IE, because I like to spam her peacemaker and net (and it helps to get those ace-in-the-holes off more frequently too), I also rarely buy extra wards, and almost never get more than 2-3 potions at once. If I need more than 3 potions between backing, it usually means I'm doing something wrong (then again, I like to take teleport, even with ADCs, so that helps reduce downtime when recalling).

An early B.F. Sword is incredibly useful, but if you cant afford it (and already have a vamp scepter), then a Pickaxe is another good buy, or a Brutalizer for that matter. In fact, I like to get a Brutalizer immediately after my B.F. Sword, even before Essence Reaver or IE, it's one of the best mid-tier items in the game for an ADC, in my opinion, and I usually don't bother upgrading it into a Black Cleaver until much later. Throw in a Last Whisper and you've got incredibly high single hit damage that will melt even your tankier enemies late game.

For attack speed, I build berserker greaves, and then my last item to completely my build is Runaan's. With most other ADCs I'd pick up Phantom Dancer, or something similar, but Caitlyn excells with Runaan's due to how it interracts with her passive. I still do really well with Cait when I play her, but I've gravitated towards mid mages more recently, and I main Vel'Koz these days, but I hope some of my advice here will be useful to you.

Good luck, and have fun!

ValyrianBlade1 votes

Obviously 4 was just wrong. I typically like the second because i typically don't fall any further behind and use the sustain to save enough for a BF sword on my next back. I find the same with dorans ring on mid, an early back gives me the sustain for a needlessly large rod (and often I force trades even if I lose them before the back and if they don't back too get an early kill when I return). I should have bought a pickaxe instead of zeal though, and on that first death probably boots and 2 health pots instead of vision ward and 5 (or a long sword and 1 health pot would have been even better, only thing is I don't build anything out of longsword typically until LW).

Khodexus2 votes

Well, as I said, longsword into vampiric scepter is one of my first buys on just about all ADCs. It's basically a better version of doran's blade, except that it can be upgraded into your top tier life-steal item later in the game, whether that is BT, BotRK, or if you're playing an ADC that is mana hungry, and want that ER.

I also like to pick up an avarice blade pretty early on for some ADCs. Yes, before the B.F. Sword alot of the time. The longer you sit on it, the more extra money you can make from it, and that can help, especially if you're having a tough time keeping up with CS, for whatever reason. Now, obviously the crit gets better once you actually have a B.F. Sword, or IE/BT (or whatever you go with for your lifesteal).

My item builds are a tiny bit unorthodox, but I find they can work well, if you play smart, and that just comes with experience, mostly.

So again, hope my thoughts help, and hope you have better luck in the future.

Aozora2 votes

WARNING: NOVEL BELOW

Well here's one problem. Caitlyn is the type of ADC that will be pretty useless if she loses lane. Champions like Tristana, Vayne, Twitch, and Kog'Maw can just turtle into lategame where they're strongest.

A lot of people say that ADC is an easy role to play and requires no skill, but it actually does. You need to know what and when to build a certain item, how to last hit, harass, position yourself, be fashionably "late" to teamfights, etc.

Caitlyn was one of my 1st ADCs and my advice for you when playing her is to not build PD. You want to start with Infinity Edge into your Berserker Greaves and then usually your Statikk Shiv or Phantom Dancer if you'd prefer. If not SS or PD, the Ghostblade works really well with her too. Basically with Caitlyn you want to win lane hard. Her range lets her harass anyone she damn well pleases and her high damage makes her even scarier.

Basically as an ADC during laning phase, you need to focus on getting cs. Harassing and trading is great and all, but when you have 30+ more cs than the enemy ADC at 10 minutes you can easily beat them down thanks to your gold advantage. I main ADC, but time to time I play support as well and I notice that a lot of ADCs want to try and set-up these engages to kill the enemy laners. Leave that to your support. The support is sort of your shot-caller in lane. For example when your support is Morgana or Thresh leave it to them to snare or hook an enemy and you react based off of that. The support makes the plays, you work off them to gain the lead.

Another thing I've noticed (I also tend to do this myself) is that when the ADC and supp are in a tight spot and it seems like the support is going to die don't run back and try to save them because you'll only get yourself killed as well. Your support is willing to die in place of you because in this scenario they aren't as important as you. I usually feel like crap when I just leave my support behind to die, but I'm trying to learn myself that it's okay if they die and I'm sure them as well as the other 3 people playing with us would rather the support die than the ADC.

When it comes to warding (which is something EVERYONE should be doing) try not to go alone. Chances are the enemy team has vision in their jungle and they'll pick you off. If you or your support have to ward go together to avoid getting caught.

You also need to look for tell-tell signs that you're about to be ganked. If your enemy bot lane has been playing passive for awhile, but they start poking you or start getting into a range that could be dangerous for them as well, their jungler or someone else is very likely near by. A lot of people are generally bad at hiding the fact that their jungler is nearby if you pay attention.

As an ADC you also need to be "late" to teamfights. Never let the enemy see where you are. If they pick you off, your team will very likely lose the teamfight. When a teamfight breaks out, you need to start focusing on: 1. Whoever is close to you 2. Whoever is low on health. People say focus the ADC, but if their ADC is all the way back don't go and try to kill them. You're also an ADC and the enemy team will explode on and kill you in 2-4 seconds tops. When I say late I don't mean come in when your team is dying cause you weren't there; I mean come in a few seconds after the teamfight has started and start melting targets.

Generally a good ADC doesn't need peeling because they're positioned correctly and the enemy is having trouble reaching them (minus assassins). Don't run to the front-lines trying to get kills because you will be killed. People worry too much about getting credit for kills, but kills aren't anywhere as important as getting objectives. Am I saying don't try to get kills? No, you're the ADC. But I am saying don't put yourself in a risky position for a kill because you will be burst down and killed.

cshakes1 votes

As an ADC, you should just farm, especially if you're behind. You also shouldn't go to lane via the river. Ever. Just go towards the turret, drop a ward in your jungle if you fear getting surrounded, and try to CS. (Warning: CSing under your turret is really hard on Tristana.) Always do your best to dodge any CC skills. Don't be afraid to burn mobility skills to do so, you're still learning.

Here's the core builds for some ADCs: VayneTwitch : item 3153item 3142 into an IE and LW KogMawCorki : item 3078 JinxTristanaCaitlynAsheDravenGravesSivirVarus : item 3031item 3087 (If you have to guess, buy these two)

Lucian picks one of the three paths, then builds whatever he wants afterwards. MissFortune I don't know, I think she's part of the IE-Statikk squad, but I haven't seen her post-ADC itemization rework.

You should aim to complete your core items (in the order given) plus boots (Berserkers or Lucidity) before building anything else. Typically by this time you should be building a Last Whisper (unless you're Koggles or Gorki, who deal a lot of magic damage) and then you have two item slots left. If you're behind, you can just leave out the defensive item and build two damage items. If they have CC (or keep throwing those pesky ignites at you), a item 3139 is a good defensive item which gives 80 AD.

Picking the fifth item If you keep blowing up the moment anyone looks at you, buy a item 3072. If you don't have an item 3031 yet, buy it. If you're an AD caster (looking at you, Lucian) and like CDR, buy item 3508. If you need more attack speed, buy item 3087 OR item 3046 (whatever you do, don't own both). I suggest making an item set so you have easier access to all these.

ZeroAnarchy1 votes

Ezreal should be with Corki and Kog, and Quinn should be with both the ghostblade-Bortk and IE-Shiv group

YGW Caspie1 votes

I main support and although I'm not the best ADC I can give you some insight into bot lane from a support perspective and also some help for when you're behind but first I think it's important to talk about laning to help prevent being far behind in the first place.

  1. Know lane match ups!! For example: Caitlyn Leona vs Ashe Blitz is about wave control. Leona vs Blitz is a decent match up for Leona since she can stand in front of you and take any hooks aimed at you which then puts her in a good position to go on their ADC afterwards + the threat of hook is down so you can follow up easily and she's tanky enough not to be bursted. That being said Leona relies on wave control, ideally you want the lane in the middle or slightly towards your side but just outside of your tower range, but you also want lvl 2 first so you can try an early all-in. So when you are laning with Leona push for that early lvl 2 hope she goes for a good all in, if it doesn't happen that's okay just push the wave into tower and reset it back to the middle. Each match up/situation changes, so sometimes pushing is a great idea and other times it's not the smartest.

  2. Be aware of level 2 (you hit level 2 after you kill the three melee minions on the 2nd wave) same goes for your enemies so be careful and watch out for that because it is an extremely important advantage.

  3. Know how to trade, you never want to take damage for free. This honestly just comes from experience but you'll learn a lot faster by being more aggressive and going for trades.

  4. Map awareness and game instincts can save your life. You don't always need wards to know when you're being ganked and the more you know about match ups the better you'll get at spotting a gank without wards. It's very hard to mask a gank properly and more often than not the laners will give it away with over-aggression or their positioning.

  5. Know when to be passive... sometimes you got to avoid all trades as much as possible like when you're extremely behind it's not a good idea to force engages or put yourself at risk of being engaged on.

Now with all that said if another game happens where you are far behind it then becomes a team effort to get you back into the game and sadly there isn't much you can do besides farm as best as you possibly can. If you start losing the best thing you can do is stop the bleeding by playing safe, and hopefully your jungler can help you but if you start losing beyond jungler help then consider telling your support to roam. Having two people lose in lane is not good and having your support put pressure elsewhere on the map can take focus off you which can help you get free farm. It's also not a bad idea to lose your outer tower and set up a freeze.

I Main Swain1 votes

if I were you I would have bought boots and 2 health pots instead of 5 hp and a ward. helps a lot with dodging the blitz grabs. you also coulda gotten long sword since its only 360 and it woulda helped you cs and trade a lot better. if im behind and I have to farm under tower and play really passive I always rush boots and a vamp scepter so I can stay in lane and dodge skill shots. typically, if I have 100 g leftover and I either don't have a pink or its in a sucky spot ill buy a pink and put it in my tri (even on red side, you'd be surprised how often you get ganked from there, especially if youre behind). if you are an auto reliant champ, like they said I would rush either IE or BT, depending on how far behind you are. IE ive found on people like cait draven and tristana can turn the tides of lane, but so can ie depending on how you play your cards.

no, taking tower wasn't a mistake, not unless you weren't warded and were not in a situation to ward (if im staying in lane after their turret is gone and im pushed to/past it I always pink their tri and trinket either drag, their buff, or the other side of the wall). also depending on who you were playing, after taking tower it may have been best to just group. on someone like draven I would honestly just split push because a behind draven just feeds in teamfights. I just ward up and cs. if you are playing a safer or more ability reliant champ like ez or corki or tristana, I would group. even if you cant get the kills, the assists can help you come back really well.

side note tho, I do think blitz needs a slight nerf on his cooldowns and damage IMO. ask me anything else, I was a tryn main from lvl 1 to halfway through last season, and I still play him lots, so I am pretty good at splitpushing and what to build in specific scenarios.

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