Plz allow us to trade one completed key for one chest

SwiftKitten88·Mar 19, 2017·42 votes·2,618 views

there are two types of players... players like me who have thier champions they play and have S on all of them.. and there for have a million keys (ok i only really have 18 complete keys but the point still stands)

there other type of player is the "jack of all trades" or "play with a friend on a champ i don't know why they player their main and get me a free chest" and they have a million chests and no keys.

How about we fix BOTH these issues and you allow us to forge a chest into a complete key and a completed key into a chest?

then we can BOTH play the way we want.

36 Comments

ZephyrDrakeMar 19, 201710 votes

if they are going to make something like this they would much rather make it something like 5 or 10 keys for a single chest not a 1 to 1 thing. I have no idea how people have issues getting key fragments when they are so easy to get

BakedLotionMar 19, 20176 votes

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if they are going to make something like this they would much rather make it something like 5 or 10 keys for a single chest not a 1 to 1 thing. I have no idea how people have issues getting key fragments when they are so easy to get

They are easy for your first 2-3 completed keys then the chances dip to near zero. You probably say this because you're a one trick and never have chests hanging around, so you're left with a shit ton of keys

But I almost always play a different champion every game and I have a shit ton of chests and never enough keys

ZephyrDrakeMar 20, 20173 votes

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They are easy for your first 2-3 completed keys then the chances dip to near zero. You probably say this because you're a one trick and never have chests hanging around, so you're left with a shit ton of keys

But I almost always play a different champion every game and I have a shit ton of chests and never enough keys

and yet i have more keys than chests. I wish i had more chests but i don't. I really have no idea how people can have this many key issues. Then again i don't play every single champion in the game and just stick to a specific role. If you are that good that you are able to get S ranks on so many champions then great! but my point still stands

BakedLotionMar 20, 20175 votes

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and yet i have more keys than chests. I wish i had more chests but i don't. I really have no idea how people can have this many key issues. Then again i don't play every single champion in the game and just stick to a specific role. If you are that good that you are able to get S ranks on so many champions then great! but my point still stands

Getting an S once a week on a champion you haven't play before isn't hard. Just do that?

FantasySniperMar 20, 20172 votes

Getting S ranks actually isn't that hard, especially if you play ARAM.

ZtokaMar 20, 20172 votes

All depends on the champ. Some champs, especially off meta, are easy to get an S on in aram if you know the champion. I don't know poppy at all and got an s on her which shocked me. On the other hand, I have had a kda of 30:1 + in aram and didn't get an s. Champs like Sona, Teemo, Xerath, Lux are all easy to dominate w/ in aram but getting that s is another story. I finally got my aram teemo s- w/ a kda of 30:1 (9-1-21). The problem w/ aram is death. I am not sure 100% if an execute counts as a death or not but it is hard to get an s on certain champs w/o a carry because w/ no death, you get no items, which means you do minimal damage. At least in my Teemo game, I had around 8k when I died so at least could buy things.

FantasySniperMar 20, 20171 votes

I practically don't play Lee Sin, Singed, Yorick, and Pantheon at all, yet I've gotten a chest from an S grade in ARAM on each of them.

I've also gotten an S on Varus, Vayne, Vel, Kayle, Taliyah, and Zed, Sejuani, and Mundo in ARAM, but I still don't have chests for them. (Only Sej and Mundo I really play)

Trap or a TrickMar 19, 20175 votes

How. The. Fuck. Do. You. Have. 18. Fucking. Keys. I have 1 fragment and 4 chests

TheHappyReaperzMar 19, 20173 votes

One-trick.

NumpsyMar 19, 20171 votes

I have 36 keys(not fragments, keys). I rarely earn a chest as I only play ARAM and RGM.

Laxfan52Mar 20, 20171 votes

I have 10 keys and i really want to get a chest. How do you get so many chests?

Trap or a TrickMar 20, 20171 votes

I get a lot of s ranks :v

SSJTribeMar 20, 20171 votes

2 Fragments and 14 chests here.

YouGoTownedXMar 21, 20171 votes

7 keys + no chest= item 3073 vice versa

COBRA C0MM4NDERMar 20, 20174 votes

Fragments are easy to get, I want to see Riot do 3 completed keys for one Epic+ chest (random skin ONLY)

yes, 3 complete keys.

anything less feels like we're screwing Riot.

SwiftKitten88Mar 20, 20171 votes

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Fragments are easy to get, I want to see Riot do 3 completed keys for one Epic+ chest (random skin ONLY)

yes, 3 complete keys.

anything less feels like we're screwing Riot.

chests are just as easy if abuse the system with friends...

i get an S- or higher in about 80% of my Nidalee games i win. about about 20% of the games i lose. so pretty much every other game i play nidalee

(idk why its so partially easy to get S on nidalee now... it didn't used to be this easy... but since season 7 started i started getting them non-stop for no reason even when i only do "decent")

it would be REALLY easy for me to carry a person to get a shit ton of chests on a champ they don't play if they were decent enough not to mindlessly feed.

could i get a friend who is stupid strong at once champ while i play random champs i don't like... sure i could..

but i don't WANT to play champs i don't like.. i play this game to have FUN.

and BECAUSE i only play a small number of champions... (about 10)

the chances of me getting a skin i don't already own for one of those champs... is REALLY low

so why would i spend the time playing champs i don't like just to cheat the system to get chests.

that's STUPID!!!

Laxfan52Mar 20, 20173 votes

Im pretty sure that getting an s on a champ is based off of how well people do with that champ that are in a similar rank to you so if everyone sucks at nidalee that is in the same rank as you but you get a good score then youll get an s

another way to abuse this system is to use a mage "support" and get a bunch of kills with them. I like the donger so if i go donger sup and do good with it then ill probably get an s because not many people play him support

Nick Da ChipMar 19, 20173 votes

Maybe like 5 keys for a chest.

SwiftKitten88Mar 20, 20172 votes

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Maybe like 5 keys for a chest.

thats 15 keyfragment for one chest? no... 1 COMPLETE key for 1 chest..

ZephyrDrakeMar 20, 20172 votes

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thats 15 keyfragment for one chest? no... 1 COMPLETE key for 1 chest..

that is not going to happen. Sorry but 5 COMPLETED KEYS for a chest or NOTHING

AimléssMar 20, 20174 votes

For some people it is easier to get chests than keys, that would be a broken ratio for them. And unfair for the people who got too many keys not enough chests at the same time. A 1 to 1 ratio is fair. 3 to 1 if you want to go by fragments.

SwiftKitten88Mar 20, 20173 votes

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For some people it is easier to get chests than keys, that would be a broken ratio for them. And unfair for the people who got too many keys not enough chests at the same time. A 1 to 1 ratio is fair. 3 to 1 if you want to go by fragments.

agreed with the ratio. (well obviously i agree with it it was my idea to begin with, XD) but i think going by fragment would kind of defeat the purpose as most players (or at least me) who HAVE tons of keys have already forged the completed keys

Nick Da ChipMar 20, 20171 votes

You can eventually stop getting chests is the thing though. Keys are infinite.

GeraldQLMar 20, 20171 votes

That's... simply not true. There are roughly 52 weeks in a year, one chest per week, and it resets every season. I don't see how chests aren't infinite.

Nick Da ChipMar 20, 20171 votes

Perhaps I worded that wrongly. I get one chest on Monday, so no more chests that week. I can't rack up anymore chests that week, but I can still rack up keys. So in essence chests are not I finite, there is a limit on how many one can get.

Im sitting at around 40 keys and 80 key fragments, so if it was a 1 to 1 deal I would have a cavalcade of free things. I think that's the issue with this whole thing, chests are inherently more valuable than keys.

Perhaps trading 1 chest for key, but no way 1 key for a chest.

SohleksMar 20, 20171 votes

Key frags are limited too. You can only get 12 key fragments every 28 days and it takes like 120 games a month at a 50% winrate which is .. a lot of league of legends...

They are pretty much worth the same.

Riot set up the system this way so people always have a key or box to buy...

To be honest though there wouldn't be much point to allow these trades. It just undermines why they both exist. Finding a person to trade these would just be a pointless exercise. Normally they are no value. Might as well just go further and give box fragments in place of key fragments or something with boxes no longer needing keys.

Nick Da ChipMar 20, 20171 votes

Are they limited? I've never heard such a thing before, I always thought that the drop rate had diminishing returns on the chances to get one that eventually resets.

It seems like I get way more 12 every 28 days. Sometimes I notice I get two or three a day.

Maybe I'm just getting really lucky those days.

SohleksMar 20, 20171 votes

When they are reset the first few come almost immediately when you win. They gradually trail off becoming really hard to get all 12.

Playing league casually with an average win rate will probably get them enough to open 2 boxes per four weeks. Takes like four games a day with a 50% winrate to get all 12 in fourweeks though it can happen in as little as 38 wins but that month was an outlier when I was keeping score for myself a while ago. Generally it leaned more towards 50-60 especially if you play solo and arams. Supposedly the drop rate is better if you play in premades and less good in arams. (the 60 month I went heavier on the arams and I was just pushing game after game trying to see just how ungraceful the "grace" key drop mechanic could be. I went 16 aram wins to get the 11th key)

RavenMagusMar 20, 20173 votes

I find that my key rate and chest rate are pretty equal, honestly.

I build up chests at a fairly steady rate (one per week, and I almost always get that chest within the week, usually without really trying - mostly because I play a lot of different champions). Then about once a month I get a whole bunch of key drops, enough to open the four chests I've usually stockpiled up by that point.

It's kind of weird, but it's worked so far.

That being said I'd personally have no problem with allowing you to swap keys for chests for someone who only plays one champion (I just wouldn't use that feature myself).

OleandervineMar 20, 20172 votes

This entire key/chest thing is a non-issue. If you play more than one champion and play a mix of different game modes, you will get all your chests as they come to you. If you don't, that's your fault for not going out of the way to earn them. Riot has provided you with a way to earn both keys and chests for free, and crying about the system because you refuse to use the system as intended isn't Riot's problem. If you have too many keys, play someone else, get your S, and earn your chest.

WolfBVMar 19, 20171 votes

Like wonder trading in Pokemon, throw out your keys/chests and see what comes back :D

BLACK REALM GODMar 20, 20171 votes

trading would be cool, but you know why they dont let you get chests the easy way right? because there's a chance you'll get a dj sona skin.

nice tableMar 20, 20171 votes

rito doesn't want to give us more free stuff, that's all.

Rook LouxMar 20, 20171 votes

10 chests 2 key frags. Rip me

MalchaMar 20, 20171 votes

TBH this system sucks for one tricks. I basically have to play diff champs and let my mates carry to pick up boxes. Meanwhile I have like 12 fully forged keys at all times.

RocketRelmMar 21, 20171 votes

I'm a bit of a 1 trick, though I know other champions decently well (and have a couple other 'main ish' champs.

I just play alternate game modes for the S ranks, it's much easier because it's raw skill rather than champ-to-SR specific knowledge (and knowing how to exploit the game mode).