Imagine if there were 4 variants of infinity edge

Marshbouy·Dec 3, 2016·8 votes·891 views

Then would people start complaining about ADC item diversity?

17 Comments

GULAG 4 UDec 3, 20162 votes

There's currently one technically, being essence reaver, but people will bitch anyways.

MarshbouyDec 3, 20164 votes

I'm laughing because people will complain about supports having to build a sightstone (oh the horror) when they have 4 different sightstone options.

GULAG 4 UDec 3, 20161 votes

Ah I see. People complain about things all the time, it's not surprising.

AmetDeCryptDec 3, 20162 votes

my big complaint is there really isn't much to choose from with the variants. they're just stat sticks to free up an item slot. I've proposed ideas before of having the wards from the combined items give special effects on placement like a slow or mini shield similar to their normal counterparts so they could be more defined as an active warding item.

Maximum MordeDec 3, 20168 votes

If I can drop a ward on someone as a skill shot and have it do damage, I'll stop complaining about building this trash item.

MarshbouyDec 3, 201611 votes

That's the most hilarious thing that i have heard someone say. Good job.

Sahn UzalDec 3, 20165 votes

To be fair, there are Melee/tank supports (Relic Shield Users), Mage Supports (Spell Thief Users) and Supports who are ''just supports'' (Coin users) They're different enough to fall into different subclasses.

All Marksmen do pew pew with crits. They're all listed as the same Subclass. Some of them being hybrids The different types of marksmen (Casters, AA focussed, On hit focussed, Morgan Freeman) get to build different zeal items item 3046 item 3085 item 3087 item 3094 , different Lifesteal items item 3153 item 3072 item 3139 And different Last whispers item 3033 item 3036

The point I'm trying to make is that ADC itemisation is already diverse.

MarshbouyDec 3, 20163 votes

I agree that ADC itemization is already diverse, but people scream "no support diversity" when they are required to build exactly 1 item.

Sahn UzalDec 3, 20161 votes

In their defense, Redemption seems to be crowding out other support items, like Locket did before it got nerfed. Other than that I agree with you.

MarshbouyDec 3, 20163 votes

Well yeah. Anything that is as powerful as redemption will crowd out other items

Sahn UzalDec 3, 20161 votes

Yeah. That's what I'm saying :p Redemption is like Pre-Nerf Locket. Every support pretty much has to get it

MarshbouyDec 3, 20162 votes

glad we could agree then. Seeya later TT, i gtg

DeathBot666Dec 3, 20161 votes

What I think the problem is with sight-stone is that it is a bad item which you NEED to get.

I play a decent amount of support (And for the record I DO get sightstone), and if you go and buy item 2303 item 2302 or item 2301 , you are missing out on the much better actives on item 3401 item 3069 and item 3092 , while those eye items's base stats aren't that better from their regular gold item counterparts to make up for it. Meanwhile item 2049 and item 2045 force you to get health, wich unless you're a tank support it isn't REALLY the best stat to get, and you don't even get a lot of it anyway.

SilverjustDec 4, 20161 votes

I think one solution would be to reduce the price of sightstone for supports. I would also like an ap-version of rubysightstone

AstôlfoDec 3, 20162 votes

I thought people already complain about it anyways right now.

XLCDec 3, 20161 votes

I see what you did there. item 2049

AirKingNeoDec 3, 20161 votes

I think why people call it in diverse itemization is just items are better than others not adapts to a situation in most cases.

item 3086 Items: item 3085 item 3046 item 3094 item 3087 all of different niche. However, PD is only used on Lucian, Sivir, and Graves because either dueling power or how broken it is with damage reduction and permakite. Hurricane is every other ADC except Jhin and Vayne. Firecannon is everyone who buys 2 Zeal item's second zeal item. Shiv is bought by no one but Vayne.

What it should be: PD isn't broken anymore and loses some damage reduction and MS off it's passive. Hurricane loses -10% crit chance and loses some interactions or something. Firecannon is fine. Shiv gets buffed in lighting chain range to chain onto people, also +5 damage.

Lifesteal items have more diversity. BT for usual case. BoRK vs tanks. MercScem vs hard CC. DD has no place.

Last Whisper is where it gets really stupid. item 3033 to negate healing if it's warranted, otherwise build item 3036 and every tank dies very fast.