Talon kit doesnt pay anything for the mobility/safety/map roam he has

Rexxiee·Jul 10, 2018·4 votes·1,120 views

You would think a champ that can literally jump over every wall on a no CD (as long as its a different wall) starting lvl 3 would be a little bit weaker in a 1v1 early game atleast, but no he just instantly kills you lvl 2 and then as soon as 3 he can be bot lane in less than 10 seconds from mid ready to 100-0 again.

Champ really needs either its mobility or damage nerfed hard, way too overpowered in solo q.

8 Comments

InfernapeJul 10, 20185 votes

Did you know Talon is responsible for 25% of first bloods?

JamareeJul 10, 20183 votes

Except having no sustain, no tankiness, no hard cc, and only the softest cc in the game but ok.

RalanrJul 10, 20183 votes

You’d have to hurt his roaming because an assassin without 1v1 potentially is like a hilt without a sword.

Yes you can hurt someone with it, but you’re not gonna get far compared to an actual sword.

Tahminatrix Jul 10, 20182 votes

Ya riot does need to balance mobility and strength alittle in general.

67chromeJul 10, 20182 votes

{quoted} Champ really needs either its mobility or damage nerfed hard, way too overpowered in solo q.

Why should his mobility or damage be nerffed over any other part of his kit?

He's an assassin, he's supposed to be both mobile and deadly. Technically speaking, you could also nerf him in like, 10,000 ways that wouldn't touch either (making him squishier, making his combo more telegraphed, giving him a greater CS loss associated with roaming, making his combo easier to punish on it's downtime, making his his teamfighting worse, making his short range more punishiable, forcing him to get closer to targets to unleash his combo, giving tells he's comming in fog of war, tying his kit to a specific item that forces a riskier play style, reducing his AoE, making his abilities less accurate through reducing projectile speeds/aoe/creep-blocking, among many, many other ways.

I'm just saying, there are other things than DMG and SPD to balance a champion with.

Edge of DaybreakJul 10, 20181 votes

He pays nothing except for having no hard cc, being melee, no innate tank stats, no decent ranged harass. has to all in if he ever wants to kill you and no sustained dps. Also he has a mobility spell with nothing else tacked onto it which is pretty rare. Hell he can't even use that mobility unless he is near a wall unlike most other champions who can just dash away at will. However we can just ignore all of this he pays nothing!