Hashinshin : Nerf mages, buff adcs

Rexxiee·12/17/2018, 1:50:39 AM·13 votes·2,547 views

Hes completely right, how can riot keep ignoring how hard mages are taking over the game?

The game balance is falling apart, and now we are about to get a micro patch that solves none of the many issues, but hey xmas break so now we get another month of 0 actual balance, mages still get to destroy the game accross every role.

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MrFawknSunshine12/17/2018, 1:57:20 AM12 votes

lets look at most picked top laners Riven 12.3% Jax 11.3% Irelia 9.6% Darius 9.2% Fiora 8.3% Renekton 7.7% Urgot 7.6% Aatrox 7.2% Yasuo 7.0% Teemo 5.5% Sion 5.4% Garen 4.7%

most picked junglers

LeeSin 28.6% pick rate Khazix 13.7% pick rate Kayn 11.2% pick rate Graves 10.4% pick rate Camille 10.1% pick rate XinZhao 8.2% pick rate MasterYi 8.0% pick rate Elise 6.4% pick rate Jax 6.2% pick rate Nidalee 6.2% pick rate Rengar 5.8% pick rate

SO MANY MAGES IN TOP AND JUNGLE

MrFawknSunshine12/17/2018, 1:52:47 AM6 votes

what are the top 10 top laners?

top junglers?

how many mages are actually played as "bot " ?

i dont count mid cuz this is the typical role for a mage. and supports are mainly ap champs with some mages there as well.

hoganftw12/17/2018, 4:32:25 AM5 votes

The forums hate Chadshinshin because he tells the truth.

He's like Neo from the Matrix. People don't want to look at the actual state of the game. They just like the image of the game being balanced. Yet he's always been the one to point out the game's flaws. Most importantly, he stands up for top lane, a lane that is almost always forgotten or underlooked balance wise. Any moron with a single functioning brain cell can point out "oh neeko is OP" but he's the only one pointing out that top lane is the most volatile lane in the game.

Mages, ADCs, and other ranged champions top are fundamentally a problem and Riot refuses to even address the issue.

King Lego12/17/2018, 10:58:34 AM4 votes

In what world do mages destroy every role?

Mid lane is where mages belong and since mid lane is getting spammed with assassins they are more or less being pushed to the support role thanks to lethality.

In what world do mages destroy top lane? Cass, Ryze, and even Lissandra are just 3. But have a kit that can help them manage in top lane.

In what world do mages destroy jungle? Little to no mobility and don't have much of a fast jungle camp clear.

In what world do mages destroy adc? They aren't much of turret melting champions unlike the adc class.

Don't take Hashinshin as a Mr. Know it all. Of all people why him?

I don't mind a Mage nerf but at least consider this:

Valid reasoning (Hashinshin goes saying mages need to be reduced 25% without any reason, that was when the Viktor incident happened)

Hashinshin is a top lane main. Even if he's diamond it doesn't mean he understands other roles. I'm a Mage main and we struggle in mid lane thanks to assassins and mages are often played supports which benefits them a great load than mid lane (Which to my opinion they belong there more than support role).

Ragnaveil12/17/2018, 2:59:34 AM4 votes

I feel like this post got downvoted because the word Hashinshin was mentioned. I think Hash isn't wrong about about mages, specifically when talking winrate and pickrate, the targeted lane would be mid which out of the top 10 winrate champs has 6 mages, two bruisers, and two AD assassins. The fact Mages can melt tanks even faster than ADs and bruisers kinda tells you how ADs can be killed faster by a mage compared to a bruiser. Bruisers have to get up close and personal to deal their damage, which means they are susceptible to being kited (unless they have dashes like Irelia or Riven). Mages can avoid the kiting, and at the same time deal their damage. "But what about frontline interference?" How is that gonna matter when a stacked two or three magic resist item tank or bruiser gets popped by one and a half rotations of low cd spells from a mage that has Deathcap and Void? Not only that, but if they get Archangels and have it maxed out, they can sacrifice a bit of their mana pool for a very beefy shield that puts enchanter shields to shame as of now. Crit ADs need 3 items to be relevant, but they cant burst down tanks until they get one of the LW items as their 4th. A mage however only needs Luden's (or Archangels) and Void to start making every other class that isn't them feel like shit, and it gets worse when Deathcap is complete. Mages get more bang for the buck with their items compared to any other class atm, even if assassins can hurt them early to beginning of midgame with early lethality purchases and some mage items cost a fortune.

Khabith12/17/2018, 3:29:44 AM3 votes

All I ever see you do is, say whatever hashinshin says lmao, you've been level 30 forever. how about you actually play the game

Dasdi9612/17/2018, 3:30:52 AM2 votes

Even I agree mage items need some nerf.

Noor Sakata12/17/2018, 3:43:21 AM2 votes

Looking at the guy who's talking, who mains Top lane " the strongest role " and acts as if it's the second weakest after adc " after crying to nerf adc for ages " Who mains Jax snd Kled " the most broken Top laners " Top lane so far has the most cancerous champions in the game , Aatrox , Irelia , Urgot , Sion , Kled , Jax Says Mages are broken for going bot lane against ad carries " the class that mages are the strongest against "

Your Argument makes sense ? What a delusional thread , now 2 or 3 mages came to the meta , everyone loses their minds

vgamedude12/17/2018, 7:14:06 AM2 votes

"buff adcs"

jesus christ. lets buff the one class/role combo thats so strong no one else can even fill the role.

Th3KindredSpirit12/17/2018, 1:57:41 AM1 votes

Fortnut. Lel.

RekSai CoffeeCo12/17/2018, 1:40:25 PM1 votes

No OP is wrong as usual Jungle is not too strong as they have nerfed it yet again even after 8.10/8.11 but what needs to happen to fix it is.........

Oh Sorry OP usually makes an anti-jungle thread usually every week like clockwork.

Still not seeing mages taking over every role unless you are talking nexus blitz where there is only 2 roles but I can't imagine that is what was meant because the gamemode actually has a balanced jungle with so much diversity without the Scuttle crab "Gimmick" for esports.