Can we have more AP jungler options?

Dreadlocks··5 votes·769 views

I know we have, eve, nid, elise... Fidd? Champions like dianna kind of fell out of jungle.. We have gragas which is pretty nice.. Basically if ny team drafts all AD I can feel confortable picking an ap champion that doesn't require a lot of practice and im not gimping my team..

Again. I know.there are ap junglers, just feel like AD has way more options/viability.

Or maybe It's just me lol

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Ralanr1 votes

I would like mage junglers to make a return.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I just feel like I have to main an ap champ just to get decent on it.. Whereas ad is really easy to pick up

The Blue Man1 votes

Yeah we definitely need a couple more, like Ralanr said, a mage jungler would be nice.

The issue is that if you're last pick and your team is full AD, even though eve/elise/gragas/nid are technically AP, they don't really bring a consistent amount of magic damage to team fights to make up for the fact you'd be the only AP champion.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Id ekko jungle if his clears wernt so terrible lol. Idk why champions like shyvana had bonus Dmg to monsters but others dont.. Hmm

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I mean Shyv and Mundo do more Magical damage then Physical.

Dreadlocks1 votes

So if my team goes full ad, going 1 of those 2 to fill the magic end is acceptable? U rly think it's enough to warrant a full MR item?

MrHaZeYo1 votes

If they don't build a MR item you'll do a good amount of overall damage with them.

I see people bypass MR items up against the likes of Elise and Nid, so I mean.

Erockandroll1 votes

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Yeah we definitely need a couple more, like Ralanr said, a mage jungler would be nice.

The issue is that if you're last pick and your team is full AD, even though eve/elise/gragas/nid are technically AP, they don't really bring a consistent amount of magic damage to team fights to make up for the fact you'd be the only AP champion.

I really would like to examine what were actually asking here. Gragas would likely be considered an AP Bruiser with a Runic Echo build, which isn't a ton of AP if your looking for a lot of damage. Nid is a bit of an Assassin, So is eve and elise. And while Eve is getting reworked to be that Assassin, Elise can still function as either an Assassin, or as a Diver. And yet, the claim is that we don't really have an actual mage Jungler.

The problem I see however with Mage Junglers is, how will they serve in the Jungle, better than in the mid lane. Because AP like Diana found themselves more often going mid, when they were designed for Jungling. On top of that, it's usually optimal to hand off blue buff to the mid laner, which make mana hungry Junglers tricky to handle. And then Secondly, What Kind of Mage? Barring any kind of unique play style, I would imagine a Battle mage. Because you would need something that can has enough DPS to clear the Jungle camps, with reasonable health remaining. While the Range and Burst from a Burst or siege mage, will be more exploited in lane. Though the problem with them is that Battle mages don't have much mobility, making ganking difficult.

This might be an Old school (if not ancient) pick, with no guarentee that it currently works. But try Karthus.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Id be happy if ekko jg was meta.. I think he is a good example of what id like in an ap jungler..

Erockandroll1 votes

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Id be happy if ekko jg was meta.. I think he is a good example of what id like in an ap jungler..

Ironically, I remember him Jungling on release. But that was back during the Cinderhulk meta, and he was using Cinderhuk. (The original tank Ekko)

Dreadlocks1 votes

Yeah but now his base damages are so weak it's pretty rough

420 grams1 votes

I mean there's zac and ammu, but those are tank junglers not ap.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Its probably just me tbh, I dont really find a lot of ap champions fun to play.. Very few, and most of them arnt junglers..

Ekko, akali, kassadin, (elise, but im not very good at her-at least not for my elo) uhhh gragas is okay, liked him more before the r nerf... Eve bores me.. Nid is hard to play in moderation... Amumu bores me, zac as well, sej.. Hmm I wonder if Rumble is still worth jungling with!!!=)

Leyin1 votes

well we habe : akali , zac, maoaki , sejuani, amumu , ekko, elise , fiddle and the new champ will be probaly a hyprid jng aswell

Dreadlocks1 votes

Half of those r tanks, akali, ekko and fid are generally not strong in the jg right now. And elise is fine, just requires a lil more practice to be successful at than moat ad jgs

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