if shaco doesn't kill you with Q+E

Well but now that his stealth has almost no counterplay, assassinating someone instantly is... Iffy.

53% winrate on ap shaco. He shouldnt be able to assasinate someone with just Q and E, that heavily lacks counterplay.

Unpopular board opinion so I dont care about downvotes, but stop crying about crit/ap shaco and play him full ad/bruiser and hes still as good, if not better than before.

riot's coming back for the survivors. No one is safe.

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how else is he supposed to assassinate someone and does his job?

Be creative with boxes. That's it. Killing someone with just Q + E point and click abilities is just cheesy man.

Autos, Jack in the Boxes, and his Clone.

Watch the YouTuber "Pink Ward".

It is all about dem boxes.

He doesn't kill you with Q + E, unless you're already at 15% health and you're a squishy.

Sharp isn't a 100 to zero in one second.

Shack is about misdirection and stealth. People constantly try to chase them down while he reappears, chunks you out then restealths.

He is one of the most annoying champs to deal with, especially if he plays around the outskirts of his team.

You build AD because god forbid rito leave a buildpath for shaco that is unnerfed after the assassin roster changes.

You must learn to do the dance my son.

gunblade

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Can yall stop bringing up win rates. Shaco has a high win rate because he is mostly played by shaco mains. Look at his wins compared to games played. It's all losses until 150+ games with him. Contrary to popular belief, shaco isn't played much unless by players who mastered him and are good, hence the high winrate

That's their trick. They don't want him to assassinate anymore >_>.

You get extra damage off Runic Echoes, Lich Bane, and Hextech Revolver active.

Yeah, nerf assassins because they kill you in 1 sec and let shaco oneshot you being AP with Q+E. Sounds balanced.

"Build him bruiser it's better and more reliable, quit crying about AD/AP Shaco". I like how this excuse keeps being brought up but his role is an assassin so they're basically saying that an off role is better than his main role, which iirc Riot said that if that ever happens to a champion they're doing something wrong(If you support playing bruiser Shaco as the only viable build, this is basically endorsing things like tank Ekko as well).

I also enjoy how people are complaining about Shaco stealthing and being able to go past the USUAL ward spots without being detected, when other champions can skip any wards and go straight to you. There's this thing you do when a jungler can bypass close wards, it's called warding deeper. Always do this when champions like are in your games...

if you think shaco should 100-0 someone in 0.5 seconds from stealth youre an idiot.

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2 buttons presses without any counterplay but going tanky for the enemy isnt what I call healthy.