Cinderhulk: "25% bonus HP" Sion W: "Bonus HP: xxx"
Just played him for the first time ever, in jungle, because you know, jungle main. I was looking though, and I had 546 HP from Cinderhulk, then killed a large creature, gained 10 on my W, but still 546 HP.
Is his W bonus HP not bonus HP? I get that it'd be OP, but I feel like it's kinda a clarity thing.
Gingivits10 votesActually, 25% of 10 = 42.
The Yetii Rider8 votesDefinitely need some Red clarification on this. begins to channel the spirit of Meddler
Cindikle4 votesIt just needs to be reworded to extra health. It's more like Hp growth than actual bonus HP.
Bonus HP is HP sources from outside the champions stats/kit.
That is assuming Cho's R also doesn't work. If it does then my assumptions are wrong. Or other HP boosting abilities like Nasus and Renekton. Edit: Tested, they don't add to it either.
Champion Skin2 votesAll HP you gain that isn't from levels are bonus hp So that includes things like Vladimir passive (AP --> HP) and Cho'Gath ult and Sion W
CubedJustice1 votesSo, what you're saying is, Vladimir cinderhulk jungle?
Champion Skin1 votesWell you could try I suppose but Vlad's passive isn't that OP... it is pretty good but... well yeah with Cinderhulk Vlad would gain about 0.35 extra health per ability power if you have cinderhulk... So for each 100 AP you would gain about 35 extra hp...
And well there is also the problem of actually clearing the jungle and ganking XD
CubedJustice1 votesHush now, that's unimportant. Vladimir has that 35%(?) slow on his W, he'll be fine.
DarkLordArbitur1 votesI actually tried vlad jg, and cinderhulk does NOT benefit from vlad's passive, however vlad's passive DOES benefit from cinderhulk, which means a Cinderhulk Rabadons vlad would be gaining both boosts in both areas, but no game-breaking hellspikes from any items.
CubedJustice1 votesI think it worked last year mate.
Doctor Jarvis1 votesIf we're gonna necro-thread, lets do it right; Vlad's passive, like Sion's, never worked with Cinderhulk in that Cinderhulk gives additional health based on passive health gained. However the bonus health from Cinderhulk has always given Vlad more AP
DarkLordArbitur1 votesAnd to further that, if you buy Rabadon's, it'll add AP from cinderhulk, which will then increase bonus health. If the ratios were higher, it'd be hilariously broken.
Curtis Woodard1 votesIt just needs to be reworded to extra health. It's more like Hp growth than actual bonus HP.
Bonus HP is HP sources from outside the champions stats/kit.
That is assuming Cho's R also doesn't work. If it does then my assumptions are wrong. Or other HP boosting abilities like Nasus and Renekton.
Bonus HP is anything outside of the base health and health growth per level values.
Cindikle1 votesApparently not since neither Cho or Nasus's ult add to Cinderhulk's passive. (Just got done testing.)
Bonus HP seems to only count as bonus from outside of the champions kit. Runes/masteriers/items.
Tis a nice day3 votesSo all this time I've been doing 
Sion wrong?
Zombiemaster3 votesCinderhulk does benefit from Sion's W, however there can be a delay in updating the amount of bonus HP Cinderhulk grants.
1st HanarSpectre2 votesSion's W passive counts as base health does it not?
Gorantharon1 votesyup.
Meep Man1 votesNo.
Lost In Time2 votesThey do not stack and anyone saying otherwise is spreading misinformation.
aaronautumn1 votes25% of 10 is .5, it's not enough for cinderhulk to give more hp (game doesn't round up)
KMannnnn128 votesA bunch of intense math just happened there.
25% of 10 is .25*10=2.5
Even without rounding up, it should give 2 more HP.
FourVsFive21 votesNo way I pretty sure 25% of 10 is 0.35
Cindikle5 votesAside from someone pointing out your math. The game rounds to the nearest whole number. 0.5 is generally rounded up not down.
GroundRuleDouble1 votesCorrect. The games rounds to how you were taught in school. .4 and lower, it rounds down. .5 and higher, it rounds up. Amumu W (I think that's the right ability) with the % max health is a prime example where you can see this.
Nebuul1 votesYou should post this on the bug forum with corroborating screenshots. Title it:
[BUG] Cinderhulk not granting correct bonus life
Edit: also, for bad math people, 25% of 10 is in fact 2.5
Meep Man1 votesThere is a delay for updating item tool tip. It benefits.
