Not every champion has mobility, even if they have mobility then you can wait to use it. It still does tons of damage, even if all it does is deal damage and burn a flash it is still worth. A flash is a lot of kill pressure in a lane.
Neko Caitlyn14 votesBecause they use their ult on 
etc and then complain the enemy escaped.
Marshbouy11 votesThat's the first logical thing i've heard you say in a long time. good job.
ChaddyFantome4 votes[{quoted}](name=Neko Caitlyn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AEbXeoQK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-23T04:16:26.556+0000)
Because they use their ult on
MLDzXnRRR2 votes[{quoted}](name=Neko Caitlyn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AEbXeoQK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-23T04:16:26.556+0000)
Because they use their ult on
So you don't use his ult on the ADC/APC, but on the enemy tanks? Nice logic.
Neko Caitlyn9 votesBecause theres no ADCs or APCs that lack escapes?
MLDzXnRRR3 votes[{quoted}](name=Neko Caitlyn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AEbXeoQK,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2016-11-23T06:26:56.545+0000)
Because theres no ADCs or APCs that lack escapes?
Sol and Ryze can escape this, if I'm not wrong. It's funny that there are like 5-6 popular champions in your list. The rest are rarely seen.
Chembaron Yamada6 votesSol can fly, but the moment he gets hit the flight gets cancelled. So as long as you keep attacking him, he has no way to escape.
Ryze's Ult is able to escape, that is true. But it has a long delay, you got enough time to burst him down.
ChaddyFantome1 votesSol can fly, but the moment he gets hit the flight gets cancelled. So as long as you keep attacking him, he has no way to escape.
Ryze's Ult is able to escape, that is true. But it has a long delay, you got enough time to burst him down.
Ryze also can't port out of you CC him when the warp goes out. So just EQ him right s the portal is about to warp him and he is fucked.
RavenMagus1 votesIf he could activate his flight, the microsecond of flight between Jarvan autoattacks would allow him to escape the ult, honestly. But he can't activate his flight until he's been out of combat for 5 seconds.
DunkinNoobs8 votesPoint and click skill with 450+150% Bonus AD AOE damage = worthless. Typical boards logic.
SpecterVonBaren2 votesWorthless for what its supposed to do yes. If its just supposed to be a nuke then might as well remove the terrain effect.
Glory ln Death2 votesAlistar, Janna, Lee Sin, Poppy, Blitzcrank, Azir, Thresh, Ahri, Darius, Tahm Kench, etc all have ways to force Camille out of her ult zone.
Guess her ult is useless for its intended purpose.
SpecterVonBaren2 votesSaying an ult has high damage when that's not what it's supposed to be for it a dumb argument. J4's ult is supposed to break up teams and/or single out target, it's not supposed to be an assassination ability for nuking someone down.
Camille's ult is a terrible example, getting her out of it is supposed to be the counterplay to it and it's purpose is to prevent someone from leaving an area and singling out a target, no amount of mobility will get you out of her ult, you need to force her to leave it or fight her.
SpecterVonBaren4 votesThe issue is that its most useful against the champs that are the least mobile when its the kind of thing you want to be good at keeping the slippery, mobile champs pinned down.
Saianna2 votesBecause Impassable terrain means jack shit for mobile champs. Which happen to be plenty. Unless ofc J4 wants to ultimate that unlucky player who wasn't too bright brining immobile, squish champion. Which almost never happens.
And even immobile champions have flash or protobelt or thresh lantern nearby or CC to stun J4 for the whole duration of his R.
PureSilvrr1 votesJ4 ult just got WAYYY outclassed by Camille ult pretty much. The only thing J4 ult has going for it is that it can hold multiple people
ChaddyFantome19 votesJ4 ult just got WAYYY outclassed by Camille ult pretty much. The only thing J4 ult has going for it is that it can hold multiple people
-and deals a lot of damage, -and can hold someone while he escapes from it by E-Qing out, Threash lanterning out, Flashing out, etc. -And his teamates can come in with him as well. -Is smaller , making it better to get setup for AoE combos.
Gee its almost like they are similar but ulitmately completley different spells with different purposes or something
five oh tree 10 votesDon't forget that it's actual terrain that blocks champion movements. You can't just walk through it after he uses the ult.
hhaavviikk1 votessure camille can make a champion stay near her but jarvan can nuke the life out of you with his combo
reaperteaser1 votesthats like saying daisy outclasses tibbers cuz the knock up. they are both similar concepts but different uses and executions.
notmebuthim1 votesBecause J4 is useless. J4 was good before everyone had to play super mobile champs, and before he was nerfed to the ground.
GULAG 4 U1 votesRemind me of how J4 doesn't deal massive AOE damage with his ult please ;)
notmebuthim1 votesHe either builds tank and deals no damage, or builds damage and gets oneshot. If you think he is good then fine, there is a reason why he isnt played though.
TlT1T1T1T1T1TlT1 votesNot every champion has mobility, even if they have mobility then you can wait to use it. It still does tons of damage, even if all it does is deal damage and burn a flash it is still worth. A flash is a lot of kill pressure in a lane.
No matter how hard I try, I just can't NOT troll teammates with J4, Anivia and Kalista. Accident... on purpose... doesn't matter. Someone always thinks I'm trolling with them.
EndlessIsolation1 votesWell considering a large portion of the cast have some ability to move out of it, the bug where people can walk THROUGH the wall and it traps teammates. It does do a decent amount of damage though, and is great if you can manage specific things (such as ulting the backline and flag/drag out to help your own, or creating terrain for wall stuns but its buggy).
GULAG 4 U1 votesIt's hard to use a brain sonny.
Ariel the Cruel1 votesThe expression, "I'm Helping!" comes to mind.