As a draven main I hope draven gets nerfed

Mody bird·Jun 23, 2017·60 votes·2,001 views

I just want to be able to play my main again. Too many bans and meta slaves. I played 8 games today and only got to play him once

Nerf riot plz

36 Comments

PrinceOfStormsJun 23, 201716 votes

Death's Dance and Phantom Dancer should be deleted tbh. ADC items should not have defenses in built given the amount of damage they give.

RexxieeJun 23, 20172 votes

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Death's Dance and Phantom Dancer should be deleted tbh. ADC items should not have defenses in built given the amount of damage they give.

DD is not an adc item, draven is the only one who builds it.

Nanuk PihoqahiakJun 23, 20179 votes

IIRC from blog posts, it was originally designed for ADCs.

Mister SupportJun 23, 20173 votes

AD casters, hence the physical vamp.

LethalTempo JhinJun 23, 20171 votes

Jhin ?

I can see Xayah building it late game as well, in some scenarios.

AimléssJun 23, 20173 votes

Don't bother bro, these boards are ran by tank mains that hate ADC's, trying to defend them is just an auto downvote.

Yaśuo MainJun 23, 20171 votes

PD is balanced around Yasuo FYI, so Yasuo is gonna get buffed if it is actually removed (since statikk shiv is a bad item for him). I'm talking about super steroids.

JunkοJun 23, 20173 votes

Stattik Shiv on Yasuo is perfectly okay, it's how he built before PD was introduced. The only reason Yasuo doesn't get it because 12% damage reduction on top of giving more AS is just way too good to pass up.

Dat PikachoJun 23, 20171 votes

Yea lets not just talk about champions that need those items to reach their power spikes cough Yasuo cough

JunkοJun 23, 20171 votes

Yasuo was perfectly able to reach his powerspike and be strong without a completely retarded free +12% damage reduction while fighting (then there is the fact that Tabis are stupidly strong which can be combined with this).

JunkοJun 23, 20171 votes

It's dumb how many times PD,DD and Tabi have been combined with each other and abused and instead of just nerfing the items they nerfed the champions.

Yasuo would be a much more healthier champion without being able to go PD+Tabi (and in a more damage focused build, DD too), before that there was reworked Graves who got nerfed hard because of how durable he was with this combo + E, now we have Draven after Riot BUFFED the damage reduction portion of DD (WHY), and while not OP, bruisers like Riven and Fiora used to build DD+Tabi and were stupid to deal with if you were AD.

nargnargnargJun 24, 20171 votes

He's like permabanned dude, not much of an issue.

ResolutionJun 23, 201712 votes

Throwing defensive survivability stats on items that complement attack damage items is the issue. Back in my day damage meant glass cannon - now there's a bunch of defensive damage items that are all core items.

Radiant SeraphJun 23, 20174 votes

Same goes for us mage mains. I want more ap and less health on my items, but Riot doesn't care.

Cosmic WarperJun 23, 20171 votes

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Throwing defensive survivability stats on items that complement attack damage items is the issue. Back in my day damage meant glass cannon - now there's a bunch of defensive damage items that are all core items.

a la edge of night post buffs.

PartybringerJun 23, 20174 votes

I just hate how well item 3812 and item 3046 make him impossible to kill, hate the items more than DRAAAAAAAAAAAVEN himself

DarkRitualJun 23, 20173 votes

I'd rather the items get nerfed than see him get Sejuani'd

Mister SupportJun 23, 20171 votes

He still like shots most people with an IE crit though

GayFluffyUnicornJun 23, 20171 votes

Nope. We've done this shit already way too often. Two champs are actually op with dd and thats riven/draven MAYBE fiora, havent seen one in the last week since i perma her. No need to ruin an item for every other champ AGAIN because two typical offenders once again abuse something

JunkοJun 23, 20171 votes

PD+DD+Tabi has been abused by Graves(he was literally immortal), PD+Tabi is also makes dueling Yasuo impossible, Graves got nerfed pretty hard, and Yasuo is now getting nerf after nerf because of frustration that could easily be gotten rid of if he didn't have free 12% damage reduction 5 minutes into the game. On top of that Yasuo was fine until PD was reworked.

Now we have Draven OP using a similar setup, and to a lesser extent Riven and Fiora are also pretty stupid with DD+Tabi. The items are very clearly the problem.

Flawless FetusJun 23, 20173 votes

Strange. As a Draven main, I want pd and dd to get nerfed. Draven's damage isn't the issue. It's the survivability he gets from items. Don't get me wrong, his damage is high. Always has been. But it's axe dependant, and he is supposed to be an easy pick. Currently he has 42% damage reduction... that's a lot. Nerf that shit, not Draven.

They're going to Nerf the reduction at some point. If they hit Draven's damage. Then gut his items. He'll get sej'd and be a shit tier champ for months. No thanks.

1 800 MID LANEJun 23, 20172 votes

As stated, Draven isn't really the problem. It's an itemization thing rather than a champion kit/numbers thing.

yay nibbersJun 23, 20172 votes

As a Yasuo main I welcome you to the club... Yasuo item 3070

INoble KnightIJun 23, 20171 votes

Nerf the item that broke him.

NGNL AsianJun 23, 20171 votes

It's that draven. It's not kennen. It's not ashe. It's Bork and Deaths dance that makes them broken af

Hexs FortuneJun 23, 20171 votes

Of course you want him nerfed. He used to be uncontested, now he's pick/ban.

DaNinadJun 23, 20171 votes

I thought people build statiik shiv as the attack speed item

aggron88Jun 23, 20171 votes

Same happened to me when kog was an op jungler just before the revert and i felt bad and wanted riot to nerf him (not revert). I kept doing 1v5 but i didnt like it to be that easy.

Maybe draven should get 70% lifesteal on q and a few damage nerfs, so it's strong when played great and okish when not.

PapaGreg21Jun 23, 20171 votes

I ban Draven every single game now. I'm sick of coming out on the losing end of every trade with him no matter how perfectly set up. I don't even think it's the items. I haven't won a trade against a Draven in lane in over a month

notice me Sin piJun 24, 20171 votes

cuz u r not supposed to win a trade against draven unless enemy support is either stupid or inting. I hate draven soo much as well, but i rather ban the uninteractive caitlyn. If ally pick intents or bans her, i ban draven tho.

Mody birdJun 24, 20171 votes

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I ban Draven every single game now. I'm sick of coming out on the losing end of every trade with him no matter how perfectly set up. I don't even think it's the items. I haven't won a trade against a Draven in lane in over a month

Dravens always been like that bud, he's designed to do that thats not the problem with him