How to properly nerf nidalee
TLDR: removed hunted proc from traps, and give them back their true vision her current PBE nerf will hurt lower elos a LOT, and will BARELY hurt higher elos MY nerf is goign to hurt higher elo nidalee a WHOLE hell of a lot more than riots pbe nerf, and at the same time will NOT hurt lower elo nidalee, so if you want to find out WHY... read the rest of the post
Ok lets get this over with... YES i am a nidalee main.. NO nidalee is NOT OP, UNTIL she reaches diamond+, YES she needs a nerf at diamond +,
because the fact is even as a nidalee main.. anyone with half a brain can see that 54% win rate in challenger is OP and as a nidalee main i can tell you, Riots PBE nerf will NOT hurt her enough at higher elo to stop her from still being an issue, but WILL hurt her at LOWER elos where she already does pretty bad, and frankly is just the WRONG way to do it.
now i could go into specific as to WHY her current pbe nerf is bad and why it wont accomplish what needs to be done but i have done that already and u can find that here http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/jwi3plmE-why-the-current-pbe-nid-nerf-is-bad?
but as I'm sure most of you arn't going to read that anyways, so to sum it up in a way YOU care about. it will make nidalee MORE annoying to fight.. it wont hurt her higher elos ENOUGH, and it WILL drastically hurt her lower elos..
It did take me a few days to come up with this nerf, but i believe this is the proper way to do it which is to remove the "hunted" proc from traps
interestingly enough almost EVERY issue with nid has been from her most worthless ability.. traps
during the start of this season every nidalee started traps and had a stupid easy, fast, and SAFE jungle clear
trap root was removed which made it less safe but still doable. and nerf after nerf hit her until it became so freaking hard to clear starting traps.. that only the BEST of the BEST will do it.. because if you take even 1 or 2 extra hits form a camp.. your either need to back or you get executed.
so ONLY higher elos can start traps/pounce
well right now for everyone who CAN'T start traps/pounce.. nid can be stopped really easy with a lvl 2 invade. because she wont have her escape or or scouting skill until lvl 3 you can either kill her or force her away from her camp. and have to back
yet for the players who CAN start traps/pounce you CAN'T invade her.. because not only can she clear FASTER but if you DO invade she can pounce away and kite you... which means she easily has enough time for her team to come help her.
also another thing that DRASTICALLY increase nidalee clear speed IS the fact that she can place traps to do a long range pounce over a wall yeah she can do this with a spear.. but if you are going to invade.. you want to keep that spear for the person you are invading. so without traps procing hunted on jungle camps you either need to spear them to pounce over.. meaning you wont have the spear for the player.. you need to do a normal pounce over.. which mean you didn't get a pounce reset and cant kite them. or you need to take the long way.
so we are not only hurting nidalee clear speed. are are hurting the pro- player ability she has to not get invaded, we are ALSO hurting her ability to counter jungle.
at the same time.. we are NOT hurting her lower elo play, becuase no one at lower elo can start traps anyways so they can already be counter jungled at lvl 2. and no one will come to their junglers aid in lower elo either making the counter jungle even easier. VERY few nidalee players at lower elo USE traps to jungle fast clear for pouncing over or invades and just just them for scouting. so again we arn't hurting their clear speed because it is already fine. and like wise.. most low elo nid jungle can't counterjungle for shit anyways.
likewise we are NOT doing to current PBE nerf which if you read my other thread it link is a HORRIBLE idea and will make nid just sit back and throw spears all day.. and WOULD drastically hurt her lower elo yet barely effect her higher elos, AND would make nid LESS fun to play.
MY idea WILL hurt nidalee at higher level play were she IS an issue and will NOT hurt her in lower level play where she is NOT an issue