Zed or any ad assassin can never one shot let alone duel a 200+ armor person.

RankOneUganda··4 votes·853 views

But Kat can still one hit a 230 MR tank with locket. I really don't understand how did you mess up her rework so badly. old kat was a snowbally beast. she was fairly simple to fight. cancel the ult and your doing well. now kat. picks up a dagger. that does premitigation around 900 damage. 100% ap ratio on it late game. with near 300 base damage. so thats around a thousand damage per dagger picked late game

it doesn't really feels like you can deal with her as a single person anymore. I mean. old kat had clear counterplay. clear moments of strengths and weaknesses. but new kat has way too many tools at her dispoal. too much damage in her kit

like am a 270 MR darius. and I take from her alone. 1200 damage from just the passive. the god damn passive. alone. thats not counting ult or shunpoo or everything.

Kat mains have the highest average winrate of any champion sitting at 58-59% winrate. but shes to tally balanced. HER DAMAGE IS NOT OVERTUNED AT ALL.

I can eat zed's entire combo as a darius late game. and he won't go through half my health. but oh no kat. she will one shot me. jesus christ what an assassin. she can kill a squishie with her passive and E mid-late game plus tld and gunblade. doesnt matter if fed or behind. high base damages and high scalings.

shes no longer an assassin . shes a carry. she does way too much consistent burst to be an assassin.

am pretty sure out of everyone in the assassin rework. kat mains complained the least. despite being a balanced champion pre rework. she got nerfed multiple times. and here we are. the strongest assassin in the game quite possibly.

the amount of solo carry potential that this disgusting champion has is unparalleled at an even level of skill.

reduce her stupid late game damage. 100% ap scaling on a passive that takes 1/3rd of the effort to proc compared to EKKO 3 STACK PASSIVE. that ** HALF the base damage. and 80% AP RATIO.**

you put all HER damage into her passive. all of it. her ult does even more damage than before. but thats besides the point. I have no problem wit her ult. even now. it has clear weakness. but when its a team fight. and kat QEs someone. and insta deletes them. thats utter bullshit. because she has the potential to kill all 5 team members including tanks. its not like the enemy team has any other threats. but all 5 members. has to play around a single fucking member that can solo carry an entire game without any assistance.

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o brigid o2 votes

I mean... if you're playing zed and you haven't been roaming to shut down the enemy tanks early and snowball your team...

Like, as a zed you should never get to a point where you have to solo a beefy tank. That's not even what you're supposed to be doing. You're supposed to be singling out the easily killed, high damage mage and ad carries or supports. Your job is to get in, kill, get out. Not solo dance with tanks.

There is plenty of counterplay to Kat. You can easily bait her ult and cc her and she dies fast.

Cocho2 votes

So you got some stats from http://lolalytics.com but it means nothing without the reasoning behind it.

The reason Kat has a good winrate in plat+ is different than gold and below. She has a 50% in gold, and 48-49 in silver/bronze. The things you're complaining about do not sound like you're playing with Plat+ players. You didn't make one comment on her early game.

She isn't strong because of her damage late game. Not at all. She has a alright late game, op.gg and lolgraphs have her winrate under 50% after 25 minutes.

I can't take this post seriously because it complains about her late game, when her early game is obviously the strong point.

It would be like making a post about Vayne and saying nothing about her nasty late game but complaining about her early.

Kat Players didn't complain about her rework because it fixed dozens of issues for the Kat players and their opponnents. People don't often complain about successful reworks.

Penns1 votes

Zed ult at level 16 is like damage overload even against high armor tanks with cleaver tho hehe

RankOneUganda1 votes

even with cleaver. I played 5000 games in league. zed at an even level. will never. ever. solo kill a tank. let alone. burst a juggernaut with 3.5k hp with locket in a team fight.

but you know. who can do that? katarina

you know. if other assassins are made weak so that they have negative winrate for being "hard" then kat deserves the same fucking treatment as they do

look. shes been out for what. 6 months a year. something like that. and my mind just cannot change. she shouldn't do enough damage to one shot a tank. she just shouldn't shes an assassin. no other assassin does this.

Penns1 votes

Well if she is fed enough to do that, a Zed with the same lead could kill a 200 armor Darius too. I mean, obviously since he is single target and Kat has pretty much only aoe spells.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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even with cleaver. I played 5000 games in league. zed at an even level. will never. ever. solo kill a tank. let alone. burst a juggernaut with 3.5k hp with locket in a team fight. but you know. who can do that? katarina

No, no she can't.

You have it backwards, ZED can easily solo that tank, Katarina cannot.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Zed can duel with with enough lifesteal item 3153 and if the tank doesn't have much sustained dmg. You also have the option to buy item 3035 or item 3071.

He probably won't win against something like Nasus or Darius but you said 200+ armor, that includes a lot of champions with much less damage. Sion for example can be outplayed easily by mobile champions.

Sasogwa1 votes

As Darius, E her ult and you destroy her.

LoliKnight1 votes

Go to LL Stylish's Stream on twitch and type the following : !300armor !400armor

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