Fizz' ult change didn't accomplish its intended goal

Nidken··12 votes·1,024 views

Riot was unhappy that players would sit on top of targets and ult them at blank range. They changed his ult with the intention of fitting a very characteristic component of assassin gameplay: high risk - high reward. Players had to trade the shorter, easier-to-land skillshot for less damage, or risk the longer, harder-to-land skillshot for more damage + a bigger knockup.

Why then has riot made the hitbox of the skillshot scale with its length? His ult is almost as easy to hit at long range as it is to hit close range. Players never opt for the shorter option, because the trade is simply not worth it.

6 Comments

sinistralsaint2 votes

..........just think of Riot as a girl...... we will never understand them

Very Hard Engage1 votes

balancing risk-reward is the core, but they dropped the ball when they made the most desirable situation an impossibility. if he lands his max range R he wont get his troll poll damage follow up for sure.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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balancing risk-reward is the core, but they dropped the ball when they made the most desirable situation an impossibility. if he lands his max range R he wont get his troll poll damage follow up for sure.

Really? It slows, so he can run up to them, and since he builds Lich Bane and perhaps Luden's he's pretty fast, as well as having a passive which lets him avoid minion block.

Pale Pirate1 votes

Fizz's ult never revolved around this. It's low cooldown meant you can just throw it max-range, and if you hit you would go for the kill, else it was off-cooldown in no time. No risk involved (and for that matter adding risk via cooldown doesn't feel right).

Instead of riot fixing that, the actual problem, they kept making other changes. I don't think they even play AP assassins that much. That said, the assassin rework was not as bad as I was afraid but not where I hoped.

sit kid1 votes

Just got oneshot at level 6 under my own tower by a fizz combo with max range ult

srs tho he is more frustrating than ever

Kinky Fizz3 votes

if you have no mr it's normal. sry but if fizz can't kill you with his all in (max range ult), than fizz will be worst than trash.

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