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SKT vs BBQ showed how season 9 is going to be the final blow to league

D357R0Y3R··11 votes·3,774 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opb7WPFvZdE

Allow me to present you, all of what I've seen in that game and I hope as someone who used to love League that Riot will take action after that game but it's unlikely that it will happen.

So first of all during selection nothing changed, same broken champions since 8 months or even 10 months or more, get permabanned and picked aka Galio Irelia Camille Tahm kench Rakan, those champions whose design are extremely garbage keep getting abused by high elo players and Riot does nothing to fix them. They work on galio, and decided that his ult was the only issue in high elo and therefore his W which absolutely has no counterplay is fine because you can decide to stay out of range even though Galio can flash during it and literally break a teamfight. They work on tahm kench and decide that a long cooldown on his W will fix him even though only one cast of tahm kench W during a teamfight/skirmish is problematic.

Then we get into the game, oh boy what happened? BBQ made the mistake of picking late game champions midlane/botlane in pre-season 9, le LOL.

Varus was garbage the entire game, literally. Go watch what happened So Varus+braum were doing fine, but you know what changed the game?

The jungle Zac ganked multiple times, and lissandra too botlane was actually 2v3 or 2v4

so the boards once again is going to be like "udhuhudhu, they have a jungler too why didn't he gank!!"

yea go ahead, and fucking gank lucian/rakan as a jungler in early game when your adc is Varus. Do you think you're going to win 3v3 with Varus against Lucian? Stop being delusional

So Lucian snowballed so hard, he got all the plating of botlane got fb tower but wait it's not over

he went toplane with rakan and nobody could stop them and they got all the plating of toplane

gold gap at 13 min was 7k LMFAO this never happened in any pro play game in the past Varus couldn't farm anymore, he had legit 100 cs at 20 min the worst farming record amongst pro play. Previously if you had a bad lane as a late game adc, you could throw your team in front of a train and farm items, giving you a 50% chance of winning (if your team could stall until you farmed). this ain't possible anymore

eventually they got all the drakes too (who got buffed by like 40% in early game btw) They didn't even need Nashor to win the game , and won at 22 min, 22 fucking minutes in pro play they might have surrendered as well it would have been the same

THIS GAME WAS THE MOST BORING GAME EVER THERE WERE LITERALLY NO FUCKING OUTPLAYS DONE BY ANY PLAYERS AT ANY POINT OF THE GAME, THEY JUST SNOWBALLED AND DEALT TONS OF DAMAGE

conclusion: this thread was written to show how Riot's game decisions for season 9 were horse shit. -Tower plating increased snowballing -jungle remains overpowered -late game is inexistent -your balance decision regarding snowballing (dragon, baron, and literally everything) was so fucking terrible Holy shit -adcs can't farm because this fucking piece of shit game pacing

and what did Riot decide to do?

Increase adc's damage Imagine looking at this game

guys I just ask one thing, watch this game watch this game and imagine being like scratches head "hm yea... they don't deal enough damage that's the problem..."

I swear season 9 will be the final blow to league, but fortunately for Riot League has too much diehard players.

21 Comments

GeminiRune12 votes

The entire season which hasn't officially even started summed up in a single competitive perfect game between a hyped dream team roster and a recently relegated and western attentive roster...seriously?

Jamaree9 votes

I'm surprised you can somehow piece all that together through just a random arbitrary game.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

I'm also surprised And even more surprised when I see that in game 2, the game suddenly becomes harder to win when the enemy team has a early game oriented botlane (Draven+Thresh) and that the jungler cannot gank before lvl 6 = less pressure

weird

saltran3 votes

{quoted}

I'm surprised you can somehow piece all that together through just a random arbitrary game.

It's not like the meta for Worlds was already stompy and the current meta is even more for what we've seen.

Saying that the game is on a gigasnowball state isn't exactly a bold statement.

Abibyama II2 votes

Snowballing might be stupid but let's not pretend that the rubberbanding is non existent. We already saw plenty of comeback games at worlds

LTK KoRo5 votes

Better team went for early when worse team tried to scale, im curious why they have lost, it must be because of the "bad" meta, not due to one team being better.

Im actually glad that turtling and strategy of

"throw your team in front of a train and farm items"

doesn't work anymore. Who the fuck would like to watch the game when everything resolves only around the ADC and his items?

D357R0Y3R3 votes

[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A1FTbelt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-25T14:04:13.062+0000)

doesn't work anymore. Who the fuck would like to watch the game when everything resolves only around the ADC and his items?

except that it didn't use to work every single time you had picks like gragas who specialized into countering this strategy as M5 showed it against CLG EU by not allowing them to stall with Anivia

But yea, fuck strategy

LTK KoRo3 votes

Because turtling and waiting for ADC is a "strategy" but closing a game in 22 minutes with planned snowball is not XD

also giving a example of s2 game is not really relevant. We remember how stalling worked in s7, ADCs with stattik+IE were clearing wave with 1 AA while mages like Ori were clearing waves on other lanes. It was sooo strategic.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

[{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A1FTbelt,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-25T14:39:03.683+0000)

but closing a game in 22 minutes with planned snowball is not XD

There is a difference between that closing a game in 22 min by doing things right and closing a game in 22 min because you picked early game champions and riot's environment, wait garbage environment changes favored you and there is nothing the enemy team can do to win because you got too much gold from plating and garbage drakes mechanics are giving you so much bonuses early on

and the difference is that before, games could be closed by 22 min, while now EVERY SINGLE GAMES ARE CLOSED BY 22 MIN unless you picked early game champions yourself

LTK KoRo3 votes

I'd rather stay in current meta than in 40 minutes per game lategame ADC heaven. Also

now EVERY SINGLE GAMES ARE CLOSED BY 22 MIN

this is a big lie, but whatever, arguing about two game philosophies which can't coexist together won't do anything anyway.

Jerry SeinfeId5 votes

oh shit the game is gon die this season? again? that's alotta monster reborns rito has been using.

le LOL.

... I'd get banned fro reacting honestly to this shit.

botlane was actually 2v3 or 2v4

Like it has been for like 2 seasons now.

jungle remains overpowered

not gonna change as jungle mains will cry harder than they'll claim adc mains are crying nonstop. I don't even remember how long "better jungler wins" has held true by now.

but honestly none of that mattered. Zac had 3 assists by 10 min, kha was 0/0/0 and even in farm. Like if all your lanes are losing and your jungler is worse than the enemy jungler you're gonna lose.

Could they have done the same with trist, jinx, varus or koggers? fuck no, being 3/0 on those means you're finally half a champion. But that's a 3/0 lucian, that's an actual champion and he's fed.

Sure this was a roflstomp and it shows things we've already seen. It also showed that when you get plating on 2 turrets down and funnel gold into a broken champion you'll basically have a wincondition.

Now tell me how often do you see turret plating fall on 2 turrets, all of it done by 1 champion? I don't think it's a perfect system rn, but it's a start. Lowering the gold would be nice and i think turrets already got resistances back after all plates fall off.

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A1FTbelt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-25T15:17:46.602+0000)

snip

focusing on the jungle stuff, you do realize that the reason jungle is so powerful right now is because a specific handful of junglers excel? If a jungler is AD, has an amazing level 2, and is mobile they are capable of being a jungler in this meta because they can basically ignore the jungle until they have tiamat and just gank lanes.

Before, when there was a lot of jungle diversity, the pool of effective junglers was large enough that ultra-gankers like Camille, Lee-sin, and Jarvan could actually be COUNTERED by strong duelists with weak ganks. But the jungle has been nerfed to the point where only AoE AD junglers or the occasional AP bruiser with sustain are even capable of farming effectively.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A1FTbelt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-25T15:17:46.602+0000)

I don't think it's a perfect system rn, but it's a start. Lowering the gold would be nice and i think turrets already got resistances back after all plates fall off.

I can agree with that

Abibyama II4 votes

I do not think that this meta will stay exactly the same for an entire year.

Vlada Cut2 votes

Yeah yeah thst's what she said for season 8.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Well i predicted that turret Plating will increase snowballing. Been telling Jungle is op for Idk how Long and that adcs are fine and the problem is game pacing+jungle/mid constantly shitting over the entire map.

Noone wants or wanted to listen and nothing will change as Long as reddit and boards whine about jax all day long. Noone looks at the systemic changes. Jungle and Support being carry roles was the biggest fuckin mistake ever and chokes out 6 of 10 players. Even a midlaner cant do shit when jungle/supp decide to ruin your day. Buffing adcs wont do shit. Game too fast too much dmg and probably adc might get broken again so 5 man botlane intensifies and noone will have fun again. Not the adc nor the people having to delay a ticking nuke.

Community and riot needs to get one thing straight: This is a videogame and should be FUN TO PLAY not „exciting“ to watch because funnily enough it gets more boring to watch. Nerf supp and jungle (especially early game and the free time between farming). Nerf mages, remove plating and buff turrets resistance. Buff drake dmg to make it actually challenging and not give one team a 2k gold stats lead 4 minutes into the game cuz they have a Warwick. Rework this garbage bounty. Nerf ambient gold and make farming a skill and necessity again. Remove champs like irelia, Viktor top etc. From the game until u figure them out and don’t let a few champs ruin the game for MONTHS or actually understand the problems with competent people and act accordingly. This should fix a majority of problems we have with league.

But I can taste the jungle/supp tears already sorry that „carrying“ doesn’t have to be run over the map and destroy everything but actually SUPPORTING the team. Just like a healer has to suffer the r word DD that can’t play or I have to suffer from the idiot healer that cannot debuff me.

Disembark1 votes

Nah. Can’t wait till they nerf bruisers into the fucking ground.

You cried about ADCs for 2 years now. Can’t wait till the community gets bruisers nerfed into the ground next. Nerf their keystone, increase item costs, nerf base stats.

Anchorit Wracaj2 votes

Buff turret resistance,lower the damage.Buff Dragon/baron resistance/dmg.So they can't be SOLOED or 2 man. And game will be more pleasent,but nah..riot wont listen to us..just go buy some RP bois...give us money.

Disembark1 votes

Then next game SKT made a huge comeback.

I thought you were done like 5 times now? Quit already.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

wtf are you talking about?

I just said to someone else that next game was much harder to win because both sides had early game oriented champions

Snowbrand1 votes

I prefer this meta to the safeadc ardent meta we had last year

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