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Malicious Metal53 votes

Not to mention the free 3% current hp damage on AA's

Ffs

Best princess EU30 votes

good luck laning against jayce with morde

Malicious Metal30 votes

Hell, I'll just play him mid >_> At least Assassins are making a return

Odinakos4 votes

That means that Urgot and mid Cho will also see a return? What a great time to live!

VoidStaresBack2 votes

Time for noms! Chogath

AgeOfTheMage18 votes

ooh boy, People are playing jayce mid now :I

xWaters12 votes

I always played Jayce mid anyways lol.

The Oasis1 votes

We'll see how long that lasts. Soon enough he'll get nerfed back into obscurity

Oelyk1 votes

I want to say it's not Jayce, its the meta and he fits the niche, but I don't know, Ive been maining him for a year now, and all he ever gets is small buffs not effecting most of his important spells significantly, its all numbers. Honestly, I couldn't feel any difference.

bill841 votes

He was getting better because of the meta shift, but the mana buffs were significant since he no longer needs tear, and making his empowered hammer auto scale with ad also gave him a little more damage so that just put him over.

Oelyk1 votes

Im just gonna say, He didn't really NEED tear before the buffs, and also that people still build tear anyways.

Melledoneus10 votes

Yasuo This world needs a hero from ranged poke... Braum It's time for us to give them one. Ivern Behold, our champion! Rammus Bored Sniffle

ChaosThief2 votes

Or he can just eat a statue. He sure does love a good statue meal.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

...I feel like there's an amazing pun here that I'm just not getting.

ChaosThief5 votes

It's a reference to his extended lore in the shurima set. One of the people he rescued gave him a statue as thanks, and just... ate it.

LankPants7 votes

Then suddenly triple AD/MR items on the AD assassin and they just ignore your magic damage. AD champions can build tank better than tanks now, what a world.

D357R0Y3R4 votes

Morde does mixed damage, he doesn't give a fuck about you building mr, his sheen proc from triforce can go to 300 damage

LankPants5 votes

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/mordekaiser

Not really, his damage is heavily magic, someone with a lot of MR ignores a lot of his damage.

Malicious Metal5 votes

Yeah because Trinity force builds are very rare. I myself use a more AP/ability focused build but if the enemy is stacking a ton of MR a tri force helps a ton

Poske1 votes

Trinity is horrible item for mordekaiser...

Malicious Metal12 votes

Sure, having the HIGHEST base ad, usually building Steraks and benefiting from CDR, AS, AD and HP a ton makes Morde a very bad champion to build Trinity on, huh?

I've been playing Morde nonstop since forever and after his rework Trinity force is a very strong item, especially under certain circumstances.

Hell, you can easily get 40% cdr and pump out a shitton of damage with Trinity force as you get 365 sheen procs and are able to get more Q's off due to AS and CDR

Sir Fuzzi2 votes

I thought Skarner was highest base AD?

EDIT: Checked that, wow, he's actually pretty far from the top all things considered.

So yeah, realistically Morde should be one of the highest candidates for any of the Sheen items, as well as Sterak's, and Triforce/Sterak's share some tight synergy.

junglerboy162 votes

Scarier used to be tied for first with Cho'gath, back before they added Gnar (Mega Gnar has higher base AD) and then did the juggernaut rework. Since then he's dropped several places.

Sniperkaj1 votes

Metasheep play him top - Mains like me play him mid, the real lane for Jayce! And i played vs a metasheep in a mirror-matchup, he got destroyed early even though i went Tear and he didn't....

Civet105 votes

You know, playing a champion in their best role doesnt make you a "metasheep", and to be honest, im pretty sure nobody cares if you won a lane, and i dont see how thats relevant to this at all. You just sound like an elitist who really wants to brag to everyone how great he is

TequilaZombie3 votes

Little detail: He faced another Jayce mid when playing as Jayce. This means blind pick normals, the place people go totry stuff out.

BzRazor7 votes

just pick Teemo and laugh as they auto while blind

doublelift fg37 votes

so pick an other ranged champ? the irony

Ben Sharpio6 votes

So what? Move to a different lane. It's obvious ranged champions are dominating top lane, bot lane, mid, so move to the jungle. It's really that simple.

AgeOfTheMage5 votes

and leave them to dominate your allies lanes, etc.

Abyssphere8 votes

Well, presumably your allies will be hopping on board the ranged train too in this scenario.

Lord Galvatron26 votes

Into the Jungle with Quinn and Graves?

Ben Sharpio5 votes

in what elo do you see quinn in the jungle and graves unbanned?

EndlessSorcerer17 votes

Platinum.

I'll seen Graves banned semi-frequently but I pretty much never see Quinn banned.

6Sfool18 votes

Quinn jungle makes me shudder. She's ganking top, I'll take drag. 2 seconds later, shes murdering you at drag. If there was ever a champ that abused range over melees, and had way too much burst, mobility, and utility, it's quinn. I guess there's counterplay for her, but not at my level.

Lord Galvatron3 votes

The elo where you find out there are better things to ban like Zed, Syndra, Nunu, Caitlyn, Jayce, and Vel'Coz.

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

Just b'Coz, apparently

IGotScuttleCrabs1 votes

Its Vel'Czb Get it right

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

n which elo zed is considered a good ban?

Lord Galvatron2 votes

The better question is which elo is Zed NOT considered a good ban.

Only Play Darius4 votes

Yes because Darius Garen Illaoi Singed Nasus Fiora and Yorick can totally jungle

Glory ln Death3 votes

Yorick is a pretty dang good jungler, actually.

Only Play Darius5 votes

Fiora and Darius used to be ok junglers but then Riot reworked them and moved power into abilities that only work on champions, I don't play jungle this season though so not that it matters

Also how is it fair that only 1 lane be safe for melees when less than half the roster is ranged?

VoidStaresBack1 votes

Because ranged always has the same advantage you're complaining about over melees because it's inherent to being, y'know, ranged champions, so there's really nowhere that's safe from them. The only reason top-lane is heavily melee is because a tank is needed so they end up in the top lane, but ranged champion counterpicks in top lane have existed since the beginning of time (Hello, Kayle). Picking a ranged top laner, however, is trading a laning phase advantage for a late-game disadvantage, unless you have tanks in your support and jungle, so it's not without its risks to counterpick a melee with range.

Immortal spax8 votes

IDK man, Gnar seems to be a little bit tanky.

Not to mention Kennen with Zhonya.

SH Azykan1 votes

I actually still troll around with darius jungle time to time. his clear isnt bad, just your team has to have good cc in the lanes for your ganks to work at all (or the enemy team have 0 on screen awareness)

azrolator1 votes

I've tried with Garen on custom AI, its a bitch trying to clear enough for the first buy before you back. Tried with singed and was even worse. I think their best spot is probably going to be mid if you can get a team to go along with it.

SH Azykan1 votes

Garen E>Q>E>W max R>E>Q>W lv1 Raptors, quick to clear with his E and actually will take less damage Go Raptors > Red (Smite for health) > Krugs (smite for stun bonus) > Scuttle > Show up in enemy jungle and either get a good fight against a lot of them, steal a camp, or just get info/ward -OR- head to the nearest sidelane for a lv3 gank (unless enemy mid is an easy af target to flash>Q>E and make them hate life as they die). Then recall to get smite upgrade of choice; gromp > Blue hand off > full clear, show back up whatever lane you were in before, you probably blew their flash the first time and the follow up gank has higher success rate and will likely tilt them and get your lane snowballing. Proceed to let your ahead laner carry you the rest of them game :D

Verdade1 votes

Yorick can beat or get even against any top laner except for Vayne and Fiora... Even Teemo is easy lane opponent for Yorick...

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