What if we removed %penetration, but made resistances way more expensive?

D357R0Y3R·Aug 10, 2019·4 votes·1,158 views

as it is now, if you compare AD and armor for instance

40 armor = 800 gold 40 AD = 1300 gold

armor items all cost less than AD items, but in exchange they fall off in late game because of not only because of %armor pen, but also because AD items just scale better

which is why ADCs don't build %armor pen anymore because it's unneeded to kill tanks

So I wondered if we couldn't fix this by making defense as hard as offense to purchase but make it actually defending you

5 Comments

DamSonWhUFndThisAug 10, 20193 votes

Kaisa what? buying anti tank items? I got my passive for that

Vayne same

Jhin I just do a lot of damage with FOUR of these item 3031

Draven I do the highest damage DRAVEN DOES IT ALL

(every toher): yeah we just do tons of damage while our supp takes the damage or heals me

SaevumAug 10, 20193 votes

You can't do that while % damage exists or True damage exists. Those champs would become meta. Botrk users, guinsoo users, self healing users...

it would demand a major shift while also making the game slow paced too. Regen would need to be nerfed, vamp would need to be nerfed, lifesteal would need to be nerfed. Champs with executions or shields would be the meta (even more cough).

I don't want to even consider that.

Riot just needs to actually reduce scalings (AP/AD) a little bit while improving armor items by 10 to 20. and mr items by 15-25 (cause CDR, unless CDR is reduced). Hp items from 50-100. Closely to the vintage items we used to have. We would have longer fights. It would not be so groundbreaking, cause plates exist, and first blood tower still exists too. RNG drakes would sill give extra stats, and red buff and elder buff would still play into relevance. However i would not "remove" % pen, but reduce it a little bit. If it already gives me % pen, then reduce the flat AD or AP it gives.

ZephyrDrakeAug 10, 20191 votes

So... make it so that everyone just builds tank since it'll be pointless to get anything else?

Moody PAug 10, 20193 votes

Make your case

ZephyrDrakeAug 10, 20191 votes

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Make your case

why would you ever go a squishy champion if you could just face tank everything? the entire point of items like last whisper and void staff is to deal with high resistance targets. Removing them is just going to make tanks and bruisers be completely and utterly broken while any squishy champion be completely and utterly useless unless their early game is that broken. Also tank items aren't cost efficient so increasing their price isn't an option unless you give them even more stats which is just going to make tanks and bruisers even more powerful than they ought to be.

Tanks should not be unkillable walls that can facetank entire teams no matter what anyone here thinks.