Remember Lucian?.....number 1 adc seen all the time and ppl where sick of him. Where is he now? After riot gutted a champ that kit was so well in sync, he is now only recovering, For all those complaining about Vayne and Jinx, ask yourselves this.
If they get the same treatment, will we have any viable ADCs left?
Maybe the other ADC's need buffs to compete.
Let me know your thoughts...
MasterSomething4 votesTwitch is a viable ADC. Ashe is a viable ADC. Corki is a viable ADC. Caitlyn is a viable ADC. Draven is a viable ADC. Graves is a viable ADC. Sivir is a viable ADC. Urgot is a viable ADC. Varus is a viable ADC. Kog'Maw is a viable ADC. Tristana is a viable ADC. So many examples is a viable ADC. Miss Fortune is a viable ADC. Kalista is a viable ADC. Thresh is a potentially viable ADC. Quinn is a potentially viable ADC. There are more than three goddamn champs for a role.
So many, I missed some.
Crowe Stalker2 votesI dunno about 
or 
but the other ADCs are definitely still Viable, 
and 
need to be bashed around with a Nerf Hammer already...
Nexustect3 votesBut there is a huge difference between viable and hyper carry, right now the state of Vayne and Jinx are a few kills early on can make the entire game for a team. There are plenty of viable ADC's Sivir has a versatile kit with plenty of damage and a spell shield, Ashe has a ton of utility and great damage, Corki has a load of mixed damage making him hard to shield against, Varus has poke, lost and lots of poke, And going on theres Caitlyn, Miss Fortune, Draven, Ex, Graves..... There are plenty of viable ADC's because Viable doesn't mean hyper carry.
xxxMadLionxxx1 votesIn this tank meta.... Are they really viable?
BluePolarizer2 votes
Only Play Darius2 votesJinx is fine, just gets a bit too much free stats from her minigun but she is very vulnerable to assassination and may be a bit overloaded but doesn't really feel cheap or toxic to play against by design.
Vayne shouldn't be able to do so well on her own, peeling off assassins AND killing them unassisted, while also having a great late game.
And before anyone brings up Tristana, yes she also had 2 disengage tools, but one of them had a high cooldown and the other was literally her ultimate, and her good self-peel was half the reason she got gutted reworked.
are much better designed hard carries. Twitch actually has an extremely weak early game, when he falls behind he stays behind, and has only one shot to position himself when he decides to teamfight or attempt an assassination, if something goes wrong he's generally screwed and can't tumble away or condemn an assassin. Kog is hands-down the most vulnerable ADC to assassination, and relies heavily on both his positioning and his own team to stay safe and get his damage out.
TyroneWatermelon1 votes[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9olv4NLE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-08-29T22:07:28.376+0000)
Jinx is fine, just gets a bit too much free stats from her minigun but she is very vulnerable to assassination and may be a bit overloaded but doesn't really feel cheap or toxic to play against by design.
Vayne shouldn't be able to do so well on her own, peeling off assassins AND killing them unassisted, while also having a great late game.
And before anyone brings up Tristana, yes she also had 2 disengage tools, but one of them had a high cooldown and the other was literally her ultimate, and her good self-peel was half the reason she got
guttedreworked.
i feel jinx is toxic because Fishbones and GetExcited
MasterSomething1 votesJust Fishbones for me. And yea, bad early game for Twitch means you are fucked for the rest of the game.
Tails Doll1 votesfuck vayne. and fuck kalista.
Kunumbral1 votesAs much as I hate to say it... Vayne and Jinx are fine the way they are -.-
Vayne lives to present a late game problem and a constant threat to tanks... and I never really looked into Jinx but she's never really impressed me like Vayne.
As long as the issue isn't a "no-skill champ" then i don't think nerfs are needed.
MasterSomething2 votesVayne IS a tank shredder, but the percent true damage AND her attack speed and damage make her kill everything. It's really frustrating sometimes, but yea, yer right.
Still want Fishbones to be nerfed.
Mannysmoker1 votes
was nerfed because he had no weak points in the game; early,mid,late he was strong regardless..
She has clear weakness, heavy engage, divers, etc.
Her early game is exploitable, especially if you had good CC, she's very vulnerable, also 
& 
ruins her day..
TL:DR: 's nefs can be summarized in one thing, reduce the damage she can do with rockets or make it single target
(that'd be savage for her).
's fact is that you can't itemize about her, because she can melt a tank almost as easy as any squishy target..
TyroneWatermelon1 votes
TL:DR:
has no weak points in the game,so?
Mannysmoker1 votes might be a power house but if you can't juggle your axes your damage will drop significantly..
early game is dependent on how you can manage your W, if you make good use of it then her laning phase might be strong.
has mana issues, if you spam your Q always is up you will run oom, also his damage is not spectacular..his poke instead is.
lane phase is exploitable, not saying is weak but you can abuse her in that state..
same as lane phase can be exploitable..but more vulnerable to heavy engage..
MasterSomething2 votesOr just make it so the rockets can't crit. Or take away their range. Or both. Stupid rockets sniping me from half the screen -.-
TyroneWatermelon1 votes[deleted]
TyroneWatermelon1 votesevery adc is viable but they take more skill and more risk to play,so why would you take anyone above vayne?