Theres 5 adcs > 50% wr
Every other is 48% or below.
If you remove like broken jhin and draven from the list the adc role is basically complete dumpster fire, and they are about to nerf stormrazor.
Every other is 48% or below.
If you remove like broken jhin and draven from the list the adc role is basically complete dumpster fire, and they are about to nerf stormrazor.
stormrazor is not what adc's need. It's good it's getting nerfed, maybe then we can balance the other items without using stormrazor as a crutch for specific picks like jhin MF and Draven.
and Jhin and Quinn
or...
mhm…
wait for it...
yeh I think I got it...
if you nerf the strong ones...
those of a lesser winrate will increase!?!?!11
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or...
mhm…
wait for it...
yeh I think I got it...
if you nerf the strong ones...
those of a lesser winrate will increase!?!?!11
No, if you nerf the strong ones then mages will come back in full force.
Why in the world you would play something as bad as ashe when you can play mages bot lane, and heimer swain are still just as broken.
Ashe is not even bad.....if you build her right and pick her into the right comp she usually wins. You are just used to seeing bad Ashe players pick Ashe into the wrong teams.
Ashe is not even bad.....if you build her right and pick her into the right comp she usually wins. You are just used to seeing bad Ashe players pick Ashe into the wrong teams.
So you mean literally never because the game is riddled with mobility creep?
How in the world do you play ashe in the same world where champs like camille and pyke exists lmao.
Kiting and attack moving correctly with peel. Plenty of good adcs can do it. Ashe is good with support like Braum Thresh Ali Naut Leo.....you know....champs that take her hits and cc the enemies.
… she gets destroyed by MF and Draven in lane
Notice "INTO THE RIGHT COMP" Ashe is great with a Braum. Braum Ashe lanes can beat Draven/MF depending on their support. Hell i am a pretty good Thresh and i played with a good Ashe and we carried. The other team had Zed, Blitz, MF, Trundle, Rumble.....its all about kiting. Ashe slows on he basic attacks and her AOE W ability.
Part of the reason they're so low in winrate is because shit like Draven and MF is dominating right now. Ashe doesn't have time to scale if Draven two-shots her every time she tries to CS.
Of course, part of the problem is that shit like Heimer and Swain is still above 50 in botlane as well.
'Bottom', role doesn't say ADC. Heimer is no longer played bot. He's back to annoying top lanes instead of being in a lane that suits him and his lane opponents.
'Bottom', role doesn't say ADC. Heimer is no longer played bot. He's back to annoying top lanes instead of being in a lane that suits him and his lane opponents.
Sorry but bot lane doesnt want heimer here either.
I dont think anyone wants heimer in the game other than heimer mains.
Sorry but bot lane doesnt want heimer here either.
I dont think anyone wants heimer in the game other than heimer mains.
QFT.
the only time i want to see heimer is when i'm a champ that can send minions or monsters as projectiles such as sion or syndra
We know, as soon as he started going there (due to replication of pros mind you) bot lane players started moaning so some of their power got reverted and he was pushed back top being a high ranged mage against melee.
Where does he go? Everyone always says they don't want him in their lane but never offers any solution to how or where he should go as it certainly isn't top. Why not bot? ADC champs at least can out range his turrets with autos.
In reality, you are right. He does suit the game, his playstyle is vastly different to near all other champs besides ziggs (push lanes take towers) but nothing is being done to help him for his players and his opponents.
Except Heimer is played there with an almost 52% winrate, and Heimer is an oppressive little shit no matter where he is.
Part of the reason they're so low in winrate is because shit like Draven and MF is dominating right now. Ashe doesn't have time to scale if Draven two-shots her every time she tries to CS.
At least Ashe has more range than Draven.
Try doing that vs Draven on an ADC who can't attack outside of their Auto range (Vayne)
Ashe need a good support by her side or she is not strong. In low elo supports dont peel well
lolalytics is telling me the only adc below 48% is kalista, everyone else is 49% and up
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lolalytics is telling me the only adc below 48% is kalista, everyone else is 49% and up
nerfing stormrazor because its OP on

why do you guys look at win rate prob one of the most non controlled multiple variable stats available. That's a terrible way to balance around. having said that a few adc are very strong right now and the rest not so much, since riot insists on creating a designated position for every champ nerf the strong ones see how the position fairs then make adjustments.
i'm with you on the item nerfs, i hate when they kill an item because one or 2 champs thrive with it, instead of you know nerfing that champ so the rest of the "normal users" don't suffer, i think assassins use the item better anyways.
But then that champion is pigeonholed into buying that item to stay relevant. Riot instead generally looks for a “happy median,” when what really needs changing is the mechanics themselves.
jhin mf draven jinx lucian kai'sa quinn sivir twitch
only mage played bot is swain
ok bro
fucking ok