Riot, it's time to listen to the community about the jungle.

metaworldpeace10··3 votes·292 views

I understand that the balance team has their own ideas for the jungle and I understand that those ideas are considered more important and more cherished than the usual community backlash, but I think it's time to put pride aside and listen. I've been playing since the end of season 2 and so far for every new season, the jungle gets a complete overhaul or revamp. 3 seasons straight and we are still not even close to having the jungle being balanced. There still exists a holy trinity (j4, vi, lee sin) and every other possible jungler is garbage. It's time to come together with the community, discuss what you want to see and what you don't want to see and aggressively patch accordingly. The jungle has many improved qualities, such as specific buffs for smiting jungle creeps, cool new paths to take and 2 smites! But, the jungle diversity is stale. You cannot play anyone outside of Lee/vi/Jarvan without being a huge liability for your team rather than a facilitator. The jungle is not rewarding in the slightest. If you fail one gank as Nautilis/amumu or any tank jungler? Say goodbye for the next 4 minutes because I'm gonna be 2 levels behind and that j4/lee/vi will camp my jungle and continue to rape me as I can't clear wolves without losing half my hp bar.

Let's come together and openly discuss the jungle. I'm tired of seeing the jungle being the focal point of every season and the results are similar. I'm tired of other roles/lanes being completely neglected (top lane is not rewarding to play, it's too snowbally and you have little to no impact on the map if you crush lane and if mid/bot loses.) Supports could also use some love, regarding better itemization and improvements/diversity on sightstone upgrades.) let's figure this jungle shit out so we can finally move forward!

2 Comments

Troy2426212 votes

You know the balance is bad when I always ban out the same 6 champions every match regardless of team comp >_>.

Erockandroll1 votes

Jungle Items have become pretty dang transparent. The change needs to come from the champions.

Tank Junglers are losing too much HP clearing camp? Their are 2 ways to fix that. Increase their DPS where it is appropriate to do so. The other way is to increase their starting Armor, Because you know, their tanks.

Really the Almost viable champions only need a push. The Jungle change to Nidalee's kit has made her an excellent Jungler with Different strategies than her counterparts. Yet she does not crowd out the likes of J4 or lee. so in a sense, she is a healthy addition to the Jungle pool.

As for your other complaints about other lanes. Top lane can be tricky to balance. A lot of the time, the Top laner becomes the highest, most farmed champion because it's an island. And if Carries where meta in the top lane, they could quickly get out of control. (hi Jax.)

Riot has mentioned that Vision on support itemization is left intentionally unsatifying for the sake that, it would become mandatory if Buffed. And that keeping support vision as is, is necessary for maintaining Support diversity. I would however like to take a look at the supports GP10 items. Because of the dragon changes, and how gold has shifted on the map. I believe Supports arn't getting as much gold as they use to.

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