Ivern is the most fun i have ever had on a champion in a long time

can't stand to play him, largely because i don't understand his kit full. Don't try and explain it either.

They are both super fun champs that can be a nightmare when getting trolled by people who think they're bad, so purposely screw around or flame, only to realise you are carrying them and it's too late for them to make up for it, they cry and beg forgiveness so you peel for them, shield them, help them kill in 2v5 situations and suddenly snowballing to victory and earning you an honor at the end (happened at least a few times when I played bard on release - I did practice him first before going ranked - and at lease twice so far as Ivern)

They are both super fun champs that can be a nightmare when getting trolled by people who think they're bad, so purposely screw around or flame, only to realise you are carrying them and it's too late for them to make up for it, they cry and beg forgiveness so you peel for them, shield them, help them kill in 2v5 situations and suddenly snowballing to victory and earning you an honor at the end (happened at least a few times when I played bard on release - I did practice him first before going ranked - and at lease twice so far as Ivern)

edit: I once went ivern support so guy went ADC Ahri, ironically we completely stomped our lane, roamed and stomped other lanes, and had highest damage/kill/assists on team, our top lane was pretty much speechless and had to rethink his entire life as what he just saw rocked his world though to be fair, the enemy wasn't bad, but had NO experience against that comp, didn't know who to focus, underestimated the builds, and despite picking up one or two early kills, got outscaled horribly from level 6 onwards, with the hyper mobile adc and two supports :D

haven't played him enough yet, but i want to build him ap bruiser with .