Seriously.... WTF.
This is unacceptable. 1 adc (Graves) running the jungle is enough.For one, his W is way to loaded. That much power in one ability is too strong. Not to mention the 20% armor/mr reduction at rank 1 on his Q. He has enough % health shred in his kit to pair with Bloodrazor to become ridiculously to strong.
Eedat3 votesGraves really isn't a traditional ADC anymore. He's definitely much more in line with an AD caster.
That being said, I dont see how you can say Kog'maw Jungle has to suck because he's an ADC. Heaven forbid theres some diversity in the jungle instead of the same old picks over and over and over again.
Not to mention the 20% armor/mr reduction at rank 1 on his Q
Yes, Kog's W is overloaded. However, trying to make his Q sound overpowered is just dumb. The majority of Kog junglers dont even put a single point into Q until they are forced to at level 13. This is just yet another example of trying to make something sound broken just by wording it that way
JavelinJoe1 votesI was not trying to put emphasis on the Q as over powered, more that in combination with the W it is making his DPS even higher. Also, Graves was reworked to suit the Jungle, albeit unintentionally. But he has been accepted as one, similar to how Nidalee was.
UberAffe1 voteshe is also super squishy and very immobile. If you can lock him down and burst him then poof its like they never had a jungler.
Blåbæret1 voteshe is also super squishy and very immobile. If you can lock him down and burst him then poof its like they never had a jungler.
Atm it doesn't matter because he has so much damage that he will melt you long before you even get into melee range. Can't think of any ranged jungler who can actually 1v1 a Kog unless he/she is unaware. His clear is ridiculously fast as well. There's a reason why his win rate is as high as it is.
UberAffe1 votesyea, there are a lot of late game champions running around, you need early game champs to stomp him out before late game hits.
Embertine1 votesUnless he kills you in half a second when it takes you a minimum on one second to get to him to stun him.
Harvey Rabbit1 votesI think Bloodrazor is the problem, Kog has weaknesses but bloodrazor makes him insane. I play ARAM and of course Kog is strong in that because it is practically built for his play style (like Heimerdinger), but there is no item you can buy that will give you the shred you get from having Bloodrazor. Actually, if you are used to ARAM and you remember there is an item as powerful as bloodrazor in the game, you are like -- "WTF?!"
Lol, 4% max health on every aa? Imagine if Bork did that, it would be a bit over the top, no?
crippler381 voteshave you tried playing a strong invasive jungler and just invading him constantly before level 5? That should put him behind and if you have wards in your jungle and he tries to find food on your side of the map it's an easy counter invade.
You may say 'they'll do the same to me' but in reality that's what makes counter jungler's strong, they have the ability to not only take farm but also RUN AWAY!
Good examples being 
Lee sin can bully him early and control him late by jumping towards him and punting the little freak away
shaco invades are legendarily annoying and strong while having good map pressure before finally being able to oneshot the freak once he gets 4 items
aand udyr is udyr, he can take and take and take an nobody's gonna catch him. Late game with swifties udyr should be able to dive in onto the koggles and at very minimum stun him. Losing a lot of hp in the process but that's why you open the gates instead and just push like yo mama.