Daily reminder that Veigar's ult sucks

Curling Veigar··2 votes·478 views

Every time I use it I feel as if I didn't do anything other than fire a "slightly larger Q" that was targeted. Also, it does pathetic damage for an ult and W is a WAY more reliable source of damage.

For instance, you could get off way more W's than R's because of it's retarded cooldown. Dark matter has a cooldown of 6 with CDR, which does near identical damage to his ult. Primoridal burst just feels like dark matter #2, with a huge cooldown.

And yeah I know R gains more damage if it ults an AP carry but you could still get off more damage with just W over R.

Also, it doesn't feel satisfying at all to use. On an AD, dark matter is basically primordial burst with a small damage difference (180 damage!) with a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cooldown.

A lot of things can be put in to improve it and one of the best would be a sfx/visual update .

Also, please post as to why you'd disagree(if you do). I'm in the mood for discussion.

3 Comments

Laraso1 votes

Oh my god, you're kidding right? RIGHT?

Why don't you ask the Cassiopeia with 1200 AP if she'd rather be shot by a slow dodgeable skillshot or a targeted nuke that hits her for a bajillion damage.

Curling Veigar1 votes

{quoted}

Oh my god, you're kidding right? RIGHT?

Why don't you ask the Cassiopeia with 1200 AP if she'd rather be shot by a slow dodgeable skillshot or a targeted nuke that hits her for a bajillion damage.

Yeah guys let's go FULL GLASS CANNON AP AND GET IN RANGE OF VEIGAR AFTER 50 MINUTES HAVE PASSED

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

doesn't its damage go over 1k before taking into account the enemys ap pretty easily?

I mean hes a burst mage, what do you want for him? more CC? he can already 100-0 anyone whos not a tank.

escapeability? once again, no.

his cycle is like 2800 dmg at 600 AP, which is low for a veigar(but still enough to delete most champs), bump that up to the 1k AP that is attainable by him late game and you have like 4k dmg pre resistances(assumin a build something along the lines of Lich bane, 2 Luden's, Rabadons, archangels, and void staff to maximize damage) and you can literally delete anyone who isn't a tank and you do even more vs AP champs.

that build plus normal runes/masteries and 150 farmed q, which isn't that great again should put you at 1084 AP

so e(o)-aa(620ish)-q(900+250 for ludens)-w hits for(1368)-ult for(1548++)-aa(620ish)=5306 damage

so with 100 MR they can ignore half of that, but with your void staff, you get them down to 65 effective MR so you do about like 67-70% damage (didn't want to figure that one out)

so even if they built up to 100MR (which aside from like Galio or a w-ing ramus is about normal for tanks/bruisers) your combo would still be 3714 ish, which is plenty to kill anyone who isn't a super tank.

he may not get pentas, but he deletes, and he deletes well.

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