"Can't wait till I get Gold 5, so I won't have to deal with trash players" -Silver and lower

Dreadlocks·May 12, 2017·46 votes·3,969 views

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105 Comments

Commader KiwiMay 13, 20179 votes

league of luck . league used to be a game when you could solo carry , now u have a game thats all random luck. it depends on who gets the non feeding bot lane .

Need Gold 4 TentMay 13, 20173 votes

if a champ could actually solo carry without a single shred of help from his team, there is likely a balance problem with that champ somewhere. even hypercarries have their limits.

however, pulling far more than your share of weight on the team does happen, and can lead to wins sometimes, e.g. cannon fodder adc support and jungle for the eventual Katarina penta

k wìxMay 12, 20177 votes

It never goes away. No matter how far you rise, you will still encounter a baffling amount of players who should not be ranked where they are.

Part of this is due to champion knowledge, players playing champions they are unfamiliar with...

Part of this is due to player skill levels - it's hard to consistently play at a high level, and sometimes you just want to have fun, so you don't play to your best.

Part of this is testing the waters. Trying out new combinations and testing to see where you can poke holes in the established meta.

Part of this is due to Boosting - people acquiring or arbitrarily playing at skill levels they have not reached. It's not really a solvable problem, as long as league remains free to play.

This is why judging your skill based on how your team did is always a big mistake - Judge your own play first and foremost.

DreadlocksMay 12, 20176 votes

1/23/8 is still pretty pathetic no matter wut rank u are.

TeémòMay 13, 20176 votes

it's not the player carrying it's the champion carrying them [slayer-pantheon-popcorn] LeeSin Ekko Lucian Lulu Janna

Fed by Snu SnuMay 13, 20177 votes

It's always the bot lane it's not even funny anymore.

Mira Arya EntheMay 13, 20176 votes

You do realize the difference between B5 and D3 is mostly grinding? I've seen great players in B5 and shitty ones in streams of D2 games.

fuffychanMay 13, 201750 votes

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great players in B5

wat

Volibear BossMay 13, 201713 votes

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wat

I think he means player that were 30/2

SchàdenfreudeMay 13, 201710 votes

Which wouldn't be hard in B5 XD

nice tableMay 13, 201712 votes

maybe if the "great players" were smurfs or people that were trolling in their placements, its quite impossible to get to bronze 5 if you are "great" at the game.

FioraWillCarryMay 13, 20176 votes

One of the best supports I've ever met, I met in Bronze. And I've seen some crazy good talent in Bronze 5. I remember looking up guys after seeing them perform like gods in a game to find that they were in B5.

Hell, if someone showed you a clip of one of my good games back in season 5 when I main Azir, you'd never believe I was a Bronze player.

I don't know where this ridiculous myth that Bronze players are bots that miss every skillshot and walk into towers came from. It's bullshit. Every place on the ladder has it's talents.

Automated RivenMay 13, 20178 votes

there is a difference between mechanically good and being good at the game tho. in bronze 5 people back after an ace to buy..

nice tableMay 13, 20172 votes

everyone can have great games in bronze, that does not make them good by any means though. sure i have also seen bronze players with decent mechanics but those are the same people that rage, afk and know nothing of the game so they aren't great by any means wouldn't even call them decent.

Brain Errör 404May 13, 20172 votes

The greatest difference between a bronze and diamond player is consistency. Doesn't matter how good of a "game" you've had, if you aren't consistency then that's nothing short of luck. I've played 100s of games on Lee Sin. I've had games where I've went, "HOLY CRAP I'M SO GOOD AT THIS GAME" but even more games where I've said, "Lol, I'm literally ass." I wanted to learn the Sin, but I just don't have what it takes.

I'm consistently inconsistent on my main - Riven. And that's why I'm stuck where I am now. No one is saying Bronze plays can't land skill shots. It's just that their consistency, as well as their decision making, is piss poor. If my entire team feeds in bronze, I guarantee I can win through superior decision making. However, it becomes a gamble at mid silver and up for me because that's as far as my decision making takes me.

My mechanics is what got me to Plat. My decision making is all I need to get out of Bronze. I have mid silver decision making and Plat mechanics. All of that makes me a mediocre plat player. Knowing your weaknesses is also an important part of the game. Most people in Bronze are too high strung to admit that they suck.

PhDs NutsMay 14, 20173 votes

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One of the best supports I've ever met, I met in Bronze. And I've seen some crazy good talent in Bronze 5. I remember looking up guys after seeing them perform like gods in a game to find that they were in B5.

Hell, if someone showed you a clip of one of my good games back in season 5 when I main Azir, you'd never believe I was a Bronze player.

I don't know where this ridiculous myth that Bronze players are bots that miss every skillshot and walk into towers came from. It's bullshit. Every place on the ladder has it's talents.

Nobody that's stuck in B5 is great at the game. This sounds like a promo-dodging account.

FioraWillCarryMay 14, 20171 votes

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Nobody that's stuck in B5 is great at the game.

100% False:-

Bronze Zed gets fed and carries a Diamond game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQVIIOs7VMo

A Bronze Riven wins two games in a row in Diamond. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iiUvm668eU

Explain that.

I don't think there's any real difference between Bronze and Diamond. People get lucky, people abuse cheesy shit or broken shit, people duo. You only really see a different kind of game from Challenger and pro play.

AMYS GRAVEMay 14, 20171 votes

Explain that.

He may be mechanically good but lacks the ability to shot call. When he plays in diamond then he can follow the calls of his teammates and fit in well enough, but put into a bronze game he is as lost as the rest of them. He can be a good follower but lacks leadership skills needed to climb.

58697132DEL1May 13, 20175 votes

it doesnt even matter what rank this entire shit ass community is filled with feeders, AFK bullshit (if your internet or computer sucks dont play the fucking game in ranked) and nonstop BS in either chat or game. I had 5 fucking losses in a row from feeds, AFKs and troll players in positions they said right from the start they wouldnt try their best.

You literally can't play this dumb game properly without a full 5 man team anymore. Solo Q has always been hell but this shit's fucking beyond stupid. Doubled down with autofills irritating "You WILL always be filled your worst role" curse. Why does everyone in normals say if you wanna take the game seriously go ranked, not a single damn person takes this seriously. And no all you smartass losers that go "hurrr durrr itz a game ur not sposed to be srs" no shit thats why there's a mode where you dick off and troll it's called blind pick, even normal drafts. (I get high and like to take Bard top lane.) Ranked is SPECIFICALLY for try harding. Leave your "super op trust me gaiz" leblanc support shit with the other cancer.

Oh ANNNND you cant correct any mistakes or call out fuck ups, that's grounds for report apparently.

Need Gold 4 TentMay 13, 20174 votes

internet crashes cannot be predicted, a connection can be working perfectly for months and suddenly decide to conk out one day while you decide to play as usual. then you'd get a leaverbuster count, but if you're sensible to not play again for that day you won't get banned for that single offense.

the players in that 1 game you spoiled won't be too happy, however but that's just their luck (and yours) that you happened to crash that game, as long as you don't do it again over the next few games. you can't be blamed for something you couldn't foresee

option paralysisMay 13, 20173 votes

hahaha, that bot lane, giving me flashbacks. but seriously tho, fuck league ranked. I dropped from d2 to d5 and every game was like this. its a coin toss, whether you get retards or the enemy team does. unless you're crazy good at video games and you can carry every bullshit.

FioraWillCarryMay 13, 20173 votes

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its a coin toss, whether you get retards or the enemy team does. unless you're crazy good at video games and you can carry every bullshit.

You're D5 because that's where you belong. If you were better you would climb. Isn't that the same exact shit you high elo players tell us Bronze/Silver people when we say stuff like that ? It's funny how you all think it doesn't apply to you when yall get stuck at a certain rank.

And before you think about justifying why it doesn't apply to you........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM5OX6dvvrs

QuickenedBladeMay 13, 20173 votes

i just played orianna jg in d3 because I got autofilled.

Mid laner proceeds to go 0-10.

Wowzers thx for giving this kid mid even those his entire match history is him feeding mid lane.

SolidariusMay 13, 20172 votes

the fact is we are all humans beings regardless of rank.

play this game long enough and you see pros that make bronze 5 mistakes and see b5 make "pro" plays.

looks like that bot lane got "SMASHED" ... My question is being the jg... why did you not camp them? XD

DreadlocksMay 13, 20172 votes

I'll try to explain this the best i can.. But first let me put some time stamps in for you:

3:24 both 0-1-0 4:40 both 0-2-0 7:15 both 0-3-0 8:03 Jinx 0-4-0 10:46 Braum 0-4-0 13:27 Jinx 0-5-0

Meanwhile my Top laner is 3-1-1, Me the jungler being 2-0-2, Enemy top pantheon 0-4-0

14:08 Braum 0-5-0 15:26 Jinx 0-6-0 15:36 braum 0-6-0

(me) jg: 3-0-2, my top 4-1-2, Got rift herald with my top as well..

So at the 7:15 mark, only 2 ppl are lvl 6+ Yi was 6, and yas was 7.. so before majority of the map had hit lvl 6 our bot lane was 0-6-0 combined. To be clear, NO-ONE on the other team ganked their lane, they lost all their trades 2v2 or 2v3 (with yas trying to help and failing) The lane was dead.. If i even try to help that lane i probably die and give over even MORE gold to the 6-0 lucian...

It wasn't like i was AFK in my jungle i was applying pressure elsewhere on the map to try and match the strength of their bot lane, but our bot lane wasn't trying to live... they would purposely put themselves in clear death situations.

SolidariusMay 14, 20171 votes

yeah i understand your point... pretty much GG then... you did your job at the other side of the map thats more than enough anyone can ask for a jg in any game

when I play jg i make the mistake of thinking I can save a feeding lane and end up giving the enemy more kills at least you did not do that XD

feelsbadman

gl in the future

DreadlocksMay 14, 20171 votes

Yeah, this wasnt really to sound like a salt post about my shit bot lane, it happends .. was just trying to show that even in plat elo you can get players like this.. no1 is a god once you get to g5 like a lot of low elo players seem to think lol. but thanks man i wish you the same luck :)

SolidariusMay 15, 20171 votes

I watch a few higher ranked games + back in the day when they had them in the client and seen people make dumb mistakes... in my opinion after 2 deaths the lane is 100% lost and the player/players need to start playing defense and do their best to play for mid/late game. obviously your bot lane did not understand this/ the enemy team took advantage.

Lane CancerMay 15, 20171 votes

I love the bronzie response of "why didnt you camp the 0/15 botlane.

Like there are so many things wrong with that assertion it would take paragraphs to explain how stupid it is.

SolidariusMay 15, 20171 votes

if you main jungle unless your bot lane team is very very bad YOU should never let them go 0/15 , its called map awareness and even if I was bronze 5 id still have more than most that play this game.

RacoonHunterMay 13, 20172 votes

that's not playing shit.. that's intentionally feeding if I ever saw it.. too bad riot doesn't give a damn about punishing them or their effect on your ranking... They already did their damage in the loss..

Who is TaliyahMay 13, 20172 votes

I think you don't understand what INTENTIONALLY feeding means.

Intentional would be running it down mid. 10 - 13 deaths in a ranked game are certainly too much, but it doesn't look like it was intentionally feeding, just the better enemy team and their team got stomped.

TheorcheroMay 13, 20172 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/eb2ddbce5ba0dbe1263a1a0e14e30b14.png

Bottom LanerMay 13, 20172 votes

Clearly best Jinx NA hands down

Smitty ManjensenMay 13, 20172 votes

For me it's usually "Can't wait till I get gold 5, so I can get the rewards and never play ranked this season again."

Jerry SeinfeIdMay 13, 20175 votes

isn't that the only reason to play ranked?

Only Play DariusMay 13, 20172 votes

But at least you get a free skin if you make it to G5

DreadlocksMay 13, 20174 votes

Lol yeah forsure. I'm not saying hitting G5 isn't a good achievement. I just laugh when i talk to players who think its a safe haven.

Autumn MMay 13, 20172 votes

Contrary to popular belief, all games in all divisions consist of about 50% losers.

MFTORANK1May 13, 20172 votes

I have friends who don't play that much and who are low silver/high bronze but are better than some gold players I've came across, so yeah it's possible.

CarameI FrappeMay 13, 20172 votes

As a Support Main who recently hit Plat 4 today ... I know my wins were more based on luck than skill. I'm really good at my job in securing kills / keeping my carry alive, but it won't matter if my ADC / Top / Jungler / or Mid suck. It especially blows when 2-3 people on your team are feeding or too tilted to make logical choices.

Most games are decided by the champion select screen in my eyes. If your team has say Lucian Sejuani Veigar JarvanIV Leona against Elise Kennen Janna Caitlyn Orianna , you're more likely to win because we have more CC, tanks, and divers with brust on our side than their side. We won, despite the enemy team being skilled- is because our synergy and champions outlived their team in most fights due to again, having 2 tanks and lots of CC.

But then you get comps like Ashe Karthus Soraka Chogath Khazix against something like LeeSin Katarina Jax Draven Thresh and you can't afford to dodge because you've already done so earlier. Sure we have a fighting chance and 'could' win, but the matter is the other team is way more likely to stomp ours.

This isn't even including the fact there are games one of your allies DC's / lagging like crazy, your ally keeps raging and too focused on chat than focusing, or you have people whom only care about kills than to group / complete objectives. I couldn't tell you how many games i've lost because of bullcrap over skill, or how we 'should' of won with our superior comp but our Jungler decided to dive 4 people under tower, only to immediately die and cost us Baron + the game. You're at the mercy of what teammates you get, and while teamwork + skill is important, don't expect to solo carry if your team lacks multiple requirements in standing a chance.

DreadlocksMay 14, 20171 votes

Team comp def plays a big factor now, more than before.. Had a few games recently thought that we lost with a better comp but we had no good way to deal with a split push so we ended up losing slowly even though we destroyed team fights and secured barons.. Felt like i lost my best friend those games lol. But more often than not a good 5v5 comp wins more games than one built around a split pusher.. at least in my experiences.

PePsiLemoNNMay 13, 20171 votes

''Stay silver nub'' - same people after getting Gold V 0LP

DreadlocksMay 13, 20172 votes

lol yeah then they either dont play ranked or they play with a silver 3 MMR and trash talk the other silvers in the game xD

GelmousMay 13, 20171 votes

trash solo laners blaming bot lane because they have zero clue how to follow up or maybe gank bot once or twice, if your laner is roaming around and you don't do shit about it you deserve to lose

DreadlocksMay 13, 20174 votes

they went 1/23/8 combined by the end of the game.. That isn't a case of "the team didnt do anything to try and win" That was the bot lane giving up because they lost lane.

I left this below for someone else but i'll put the time stamps for you as well:

3:24 both 0-1-0 4:40 both 0-2-0 7:15 both 0-3-0 8:03 Jinx 0-4-0 10:46 Braum 0-4-0 13:27 Jinx 0-5-0

Meanwhile my Top laner is 3-1-1, Me the jungler being 2-2, Enemy top pantheon 0-4-0

14:08 Braum 0-5-0 15:26 Jinx 0-6-0 15:36 braum 0-6-0

(me) jg: 3-0-2, my top 4-1-2 Got rift herald with my top as well..

Again, no1 on the enemy team even ganked them in the first 16 minutes of the game.. Our yasuo tried to help them 3x in a 3v2 and it failed.. The lane was dead bro.. by 7:15 my bot lane was combined 0-6-0 while only yi and yas were lvl 6/7 ... how do you die a combined 6 times before lvl 6.. How do you consider that the solo laners fault? How do you not see this as the bot lane simply not trying. This is plat elo... People should know how to avoid death at a slower rate then this LOL.

ZephyrDrakeMay 13, 20171 votes

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they went 1/23/8 combined by the end of the game.. That isn't a case of "the team didnt do anything to try and win" That was the bot lane giving up because they lost lane.

I left this below for someone else but i'll put the time stamps for you as well: 4:40 both 0-2-0 7:15 both 0-3-0 8:03 Jinx 0-4-0 10:46 Braum 0-4-0 13:27 Jinx 0-5-0

Meanwhile my Top laner is 3-1-1, Me the jungler being 2-2, Enemy top pantheon 0-4-0

14:08 Braum 0-5-0 15:26 Jinx 0-6-0 15:36 braum 0-6-0

(me) jg: 3-0-2, my top 4-1-2 Got rift herald with my top as well..

Again, no1 on the enemy team even ganked them in the first 16 minutes of the game.. Our yasuo tried to help them 3x in a 3v2 and it failed.. The lane was dead bro.. by 7:15 my bot lane was combined 0-6-0 while only yi and yas were lvl 6/7 ... how do you die a combined 6 times before lvl 6.. How do you consider that the solo laners fault? How do you not see this as the bot lane simply not trying. This is plat elo... People should know how to avoid death at a slower rate then this LOL.

it is the entire team's fault. You have a lane that is horrendously behind to the point that they literally cannot do anything since their lane opponents are so far ahead that they can just dive them under the turret, kill them and proceed to farm like nothing happened all the while what is the rest of the team doing? getting a top laner that is already ahead even father ahead? do something about the two fed champions, send the entire team against them to at least get the shutdown gold and turret so that the bot lane can go somewhere else. Free the teammates that are behind from whatever lane they are instead of making a top laner that is behind and is terrible in the later stages of the game be even farther behind. Unless you are 100% certain that you can just take the inhib before your losing lane loses theirs the entire team should be doing something about that lane

DreadlocksMay 13, 20174 votes

We tried, but you see the enemy had so many wards it was damn near impossible, and our support didnt even buy a sightstone of his own.. In most games, i'd agree, it's a team effort, teams fault.. But when 2 players give up and start playing the way these 2 did.. It cannot be blamed on the other players trying to make favorable trades. I'd give you the replay but quite frankly this game was already a waste of time for me and apparently showing you the time stamps on the game was too.. If you honestly think going 0-7-0 combined by 8 mins is trying, then you must be playing a different game friend :)

Lane CancerMay 15, 20171 votes

If you had half a brain you would realize every single pro and high level player will tell you that ganking feeding lanes is a waste of time, you camp the win condition lane.

ZephyrDrakeMay 15, 20171 votes

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If you had half a brain you would realize every single pro and high level player will tell you that ganking feeding lanes is a waste of time, you camp the win condition lane.

"waste of time" yeah, no. Camping that lane is a waste of time. Getting them off them off the lane so they stop feeding or actually punishing the damn enemy that is on your inhib turret is another thing entirely. But go ahead and let them lose inhib for free while you gank a lane that doesn't matter