"We don't want lanes to be decided from champ select"

FalconPawwwwnch·Nov 9, 2014·17 votes·2,609 views

Meanwhile you pretty much can't pick a melee champion if they pick a ranged champion top lane

41 Comments

AtheosisXNov 9, 201412 votes

Ranged champs top are far from auto-win.

a call beyondNov 9, 20149 votes

riot wants melees to be in the jungle, there's no other place for them

ZercieNov 9, 20142 votes

And now with the new jungle a lot of melees such as Skarner are horrible in the jungle due to the fact that they can't clear anymore. The new jungle is pretty much based around sustain and clear speeds right now.

NarasimhaNov 9, 20143 votes

Have you tried the new jungle? Honestly? Because it sounds like you haven't. If anything, his jungling got improved by the new items.

4nth0l0gyNov 9, 20141 votes

Rumble Zed Talon JarvanIV Kassadin Riven Braum Leona Nasus Maokai Poppy Yasuo Would like a word with you.

And those are just the ones that have seen recent competitive play.

Fed by Snu SnuNov 9, 20148 votes

It's ok.

Games are decided on which ADC does the first 3 crits in a clusterf*ck of champions anyway.

DHA0SNov 9, 20147 votes

So ? Melee champions have dominated mid lane, which has traditionally been a lane for ranged champions, since late 2012. Ranged needs to go to some other lane. It's only fair. The fact that Akali Diana Fizz Kassadin Katarina Khazix Talon Yasuo Zed have forced champions like Annie Morgana Zyra into the support role shows how bad it's gotten.

JunkοNov 9, 20143 votes

Annie, Morgana and Zyra haven't been forced into the support role. They were picked by pro players there and everybody decided to be a sheep and start using them too.

Akali, Diana(LOL!), Fizz, Kass,etc... dominate mid laners because mid laners are usually AP Mages which are weak against assassins, also ALL of them have a ranged spell/gapcloser to fight back, the fact that half of them have non existant mana costs help too. Bruisers are dominated by Vayne and Ryze tops because they need to get close to deal damage, with that spammable snare and dashes+knockback that is NOT going to happen, Vayne even has % hp true damage, guess what bruisers build?

Knight SoIaire Nov 9, 20141 votes

oriana ?

NarasimhaNov 9, 20144 votes

"My name is Irelia. You entered my lane. Prepare to die."

RebonackNov 9, 20143 votes

There's this cool map called Dominion where balance isn't a giant cluster-**** right now with respect to melee champions.

And it's super-fun!

serpensortia1Nov 9, 20146 votes

If only there weren't 5 or more bots in every game I try to play. I love dominion, just can't play.

(I haven't played in a while due to said bots. If problem is gone, please tell me, would love to play again :) )

FantasySniperNov 9, 20143 votes

Meanwhile Akali Yasuo Fizz

VerticleHippoNov 9, 20142 votes

Darius? Was that an accidental click? o.o

FantasySniperNov 9, 20141 votes

Whoops, lol. I'll fix that.

Drunk RummateNov 9, 20143 votes

Maokai Zed Akali JarvanIV XinZhao Yasuo Alistar Riven

"Melees are weak in top lane"

Lol, whatever you say buddy.

Sailor MintNov 9, 20142 votes

Where's that quote from anyway?

Edit: Pretty sure I was drunk and misread. Move along people.

SkiasNov 9, 20143 votes

Riot has said that countless times.

Sailor MintNov 9, 20144 votes

I asked for a link.

Demonsolder21Nov 9, 20143 votes

I asked for a link.

you dont need one bud

BrightNooblarNov 9, 20141 votes

I asked for a link.

you dont need one bud

Everything with a quote warrants a citation. Even if its common, its just a good habit to have.

JunkοNov 9, 20142 votes

You asked where the quote is from not "Give me the link of where the quote is from"

Kowe The EwokNov 9, 20142 votes

Becasue Fizz, Riven, Talon, Zed, Akali are such bad picks...

darkdillNov 9, 20141 votes

Wrong.

If you see the enemy pick Quinn top, take Pantheon. Pantheon stomps on her because she pretty much cannot harass him with her passive, and you can seriously hurt her with Spear Shots.

Up against Jayce? Mordekaiser wrecks him due to trade superiority.

Top lane ranged isn't impossible to beat. It just tends to counter common top-lane picks.

TeemoHunter1337Nov 9, 20144 votes

Wrong.

If you see the enemy pick Quinn top, take Pantheon. Pantheon stomps on her because she pretty much cannot harass him with her passive, and you can seriously hurt her with Spear Shots.

Up against Jayce? Mordekaiser wrecks him due to trade superiority.

Top lane ranged isn't impossible to beat. It just tends to counter common top-lane picks.

morde dont wreck jayce. jayce wreck morde.

q+e take out his shield . then do w for 3 autoattacks while going in melee q+w. then E them to back off. and R again to go in gun form, then poke them until u back off or they back off.

darkdillNov 9, 20141 votes

Meanwhile Morde's powerful magic damage shreds you, while he absorbs some of yours via his shield. You lose out in the damage trade unless he didn't attack you at all.

TeemoHunter1337Nov 9, 20147 votes

Meanwhile Morde's powerful magic damage shreds you, while he absorbs some of yours via his shield. You lose out in the damage trade unless he didn't attack you at all.

lvl 3 whos stronger?

morde with 3 abilities or jayce with 6?

not to mention. if i was the jayce i would make sure to poke the morde and have minion advantage before i start a trade.

i know jayce would win the trade. idk about a kill though.

darkdillNov 9, 20143 votes

Regardless, I'm just saying that top-lane ranged isn't impossible to beat.

JunkοNov 9, 20141 votes

gl playing against Vayne with any top laner who needs to get in melee range

NarasimhaNov 9, 20142 votes

Darius Pantheon MonkeyKing Gragas

JunkοNov 9, 20145 votes

Darius So a champion with 0 mobility, and whose only CC is a small slow and who builds mainly HP. And is weak to being kited and poked. Is good against Vayne?

LOL

Knight SoIaire Nov 9, 20141 votes

and then he gets kited into oblivion cause he is a lane bully

Knight SoIaire Nov 9, 20141 votes

quinn top is a trollpick quinn was supposed to be a weirdo adc not a toplaner, so riot ballanced her so (she needs a support to survive anyone with a gapcloser) its just like vayne top (ppl pick it to abuse ranged vs meele interactions)

wolfaxNov 9, 20141 votes

That's cause everyone whined that melees (Renekton and such) were too good top lane.

Inb4owningNov 9, 20141 votes

It always depends the champion you pick. Usually melee champions are tankier than ranged champions so they can survive ganks better, they are usually more mobile than ranged champions. I think top lane now is pretty jungler reliant if the enemy picks a ranged champion like ryze/vayne that scales insanely well in the late game, the jungler can just kill them over and over because they are squishy. You can also play safe on a champion like nasus/jax/irelia/akali and kill them over and over once you get your powerspike. I think it could be an issue when you play a champion like darius/garen and you just get kited forever by ryze and never get a gank.

SalidfingersNov 9, 20141 votes

If you want a Manly top, Take Olaf. He can take on most melee and range champions in top lane.

StephenizgodNov 9, 20141 votes

If Fiora's ult wasnt so buggy she would be a nice pick against ranged champs. Riposte Ult Riposte, thats a long time to not be taking damage.

QuephaNov 9, 20141 votes

kalista is clearly 10x better when picked with thresh than any other support

MotherChurchNov 10, 20141 votes

Irelia does pretty well against range. If they harass you with their range, then just q to a creep and stun them.

DrCyanideNov 10, 20141 votes

I've been destroyed by Pantheon and Xin Zhao bot lane when I was Jinx and my support was Morgana. As such, I have a hard time feeling sympathy when melee players say life is hard.