If you're going to let champs with stupid amounts of sustained magic damage come back

FalconPawwwwnch·May 22, 2015·5 votes·469 views

(Looking at you cass) then we need Force of Nature back in the game.

At least the last time cass was in the meta (Season 2) we had actual Magic resist items to tank her

5 Comments

TheXtractorMay 22, 20154 votes

Maybe a MR item that stacks up whenever you take magic damage, and each stack grants additional MR? so the more you are being hit the more tanky you get.

Kind of like wits end but then only when you take damage.

67chromeMay 22, 20153 votes

Sustained damage on magic doesn't really change the fact magic damage doesn't have the same kind of tertiary multipliers as AD champions. On the AD side you see greater scaling through things like critical strikes, having 2 %penetration items rather than 1, and things like Hydra offering a 100% AD scaling over Lich Bane's 75% AP scaling.

Also - adding FoN to deal with the champions that deal with current MR the best is essentially nerffing every magic-damage champion to leave only the best behind in a sudo-balanced state, which is awful design no matter how you look at it. If Cass is an issue, the logical thing would be nerffing Cass directly rather than nerffing every magic-damage champion through itemization.

MartyrofsandMay 22, 20152 votes

Not really gonna have the impact you are looking for I'm afraid. Force of nature alone won't do it, even back then it gave what 70 MR? Compare this to armor itemization that has both Thornmail and Frozen Heart giving 100 armor a piece, Randuins giving strong amounts of both health and armor, not to mention several damage items like Black Cleaver, Triforce, and Frozen Mallet that give HP on top of damage.

Now compare this to MR itemization. Spirit Visage and Banshee's Veil both are only giving 50 MR, and Locket will give 40 between the 20 you get and the 20 MR aura. Damage wise there is Maw, Abyssal, and Athenes.

Simply put the entire MR itemization of this game is based around the idea that an AP champion will deal most of their damage and then everything goes on CD so you just need enough MR and HP to survive those CDs and kill them before they come back. Cassio completely throws this entire set up on it's head and in order to account for it you will need far more the Force of Nature to return, you will need a complete over hall of Magic Resist itemization. There is a big problem with that though. If you design Magic Resist itemization around a mage like Cassio who does a ton of constant damage, those that actually have CDs to work around are going to be screwed because they can't keep up. It's kind of a catch 22 where Riot either accepts Cassio for what she is and designs MR around her existence in which case many other APs are going to be worthless or they simply nerf/rework Cassio to be within reason for how Magic Resist currently exists in the game.

As much as I love Cassio I fully expect the nerf path to be taken by riot as completely rebalancing items just for 1 champion in such a way that it would screw every other AP champion in the game over isn't reasonable.

I guess Cassio isn't completely alone for constant Magic damage mage, Azir, and Karthus both have really high amounts of constant magic damage but even so that is a very small amount of champions to expect riot to completely revamp magic resist for.