So, I almost won top with a Zac against a Ryze.

Rew711··3 votes·515 views

Except Ryze lagged out half the game. I never felt so weak when a level 6 Ryze could beat up a level 13 Zac. And I got a lot of magic resist items and everything related to health and armor. Why is that?

When you look at his kit, sure it sounds strong, but in game, you can't even gank right while in the jungle. His abilities cost too much of his health, his passive does not work, and his win rate is not even good in jungle standards.

He is the only health reliant champion that is not good with life steal or spell vamp. DrMundo is good with life steal because he has his E and because of his W he is also good with spell vamp. Mordekaiser is good with spell vamp because of his W, E, and R dealing damage over time and to multiple enemies. Zac deals more damage to himself in late game than any of these champions because as a tank, he has no sustain which is what tanks are. All of his abilities are damage based. No bonus armor, no bonus magic resist, no tenacity.

His W is only best in late game. Why does it cost 4% health? You are only able to deal 1% more to the opponent at first (if you have AP). Why not make it cost 3%? Sure its barely a drop but it will cut him some damage to himself.

His R deals no damage what so ever, ever since the nerf to his damage.

And, to make things crazier, he RELIES on health, yet he doesn't even get a FULL HEALTH REGEN ON HIS PASSIVE!! Aatrox is able to, Anivia is able to, and Zilean can definitely do it as well.

You're telling me, just because he is said to be a Tank, he is not allowed this? Because it is possible to stop his regen unlike Zilean or Aatrox? What is the deal?

Will he be more OP? No, because one is still able to stop the regen.

Will his W be more OP? No, because it doesn't deal more damage.

Is Zac OP? Depends on how much and who plays him, yet still he no JarvanIV.

Will giving Zac some tenacity kill anyone? No, it just means he's a Tank.

Will giving bonus armor and magic resist kill anyone? No, it just means he can finally be a TANK!!

I hate that his passive's passive itself has a neat counter and yet its still OP? You fling out 4% health regen that you must go get before it goes away or gets stepped on.

6 Comments

Decrous2 votes

Reason his abilities cost alot is basically this: 4% of CURRENT hp for each ability (on relitively low cooldowns) Blobs that pop out after hitting and enemy with your ability: Heals 4% of MAX, hp.

Riot's just being careful to make his sustain not tooooo strong.

Rew7111 votes

You get only 4% though, so if I have 1000 health, I have 500 health, and I use an ability:

It costs 20 health I now have 480 health I can regain only 40 health If I get it, I now have 520 health

It's not like Ryze is not going to send out at least 50 damage per basic attack and 60 damage per spell.

I deal about 50 damage to him per basic attack, and can only deal 60 damage to him (40 or more/less damage to me) with a spell.

This is not making a Tank too strong anymore, this is just a wall of goo. If Zac cannot last against a Fighter, then he's doesn't have enough sustain.

Why not nerf Chogath's heal on his health and mana?

Why not nerf Galio so he deals less damage?

You are just saying this because he doesn't use mana.

Rand0mH3r0X1 votes

I haven't found a place where Zac excels to be honest. He's too dependent on other people to do burst damage for him. Besides, Ryze players had to build quick movement skills because of the way he worked. Ryze will always be a slippery eel.

Zac drops these little blobs around that heal him for more than what the cost of the ability was. You have to be mobile with Zac.

TheRakkun3 votes

Zac really needs to have the Draven Treatment, on using his abilities his blobs will lead him on, falling nearby if he's still, or in the direction he's moving in if moving.

Dangerous Man1 votes

WRONG BUILD. Warmogs and ZZ rot portal (MR AR and Health regen, get 5 of these if you want to never die)

Davy Crockett1 votes

If you're playing against Ryze... No matter how much MR you build, he will always shred through it. All it takes is his E, a Void Staff, and an Abyssal Scepter to make it nullified.... Say, why is this a post about Zac instead of Ryze? Just saying.

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