Guinsoo's is such a problem

FalconPawwwwnch·Mar 3, 2016·45 votes·3,129 views

That only one champ building it outside of the jungle has over a 50% WR

Must be guinsoo's

Not Devourer

35 Comments

Hayaishi2Mar 3, 201615 votes

Yi has been bullshit with Devourer + Bork way before Guinsoo.

YumaS2AstralMar 3, 20169 votes

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Yi has been bullshit with Devourer + Bork way before Guinsoo.

This

Problem with Yi is that his true damage + his immunity to attack speed slows + his passive + his surprisingly good base stats = him being broken with Devourer

SukishooMar 3, 20162 votes

He's immune to all slows only during his ult.

YumaS2AstralMar 3, 20169 votes

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He's immune to all slows only during his ult.

His ult lasts for enough time for him to wreak havoc, especially since Master Yi can assassinate squishies so easily (even with a bruiser build) that he can get lots of resets.

My Waifu VanillaMar 3, 20164 votes

You see this would be a good argument.....if his ult didn't last 10 seconds and go up by 4 seconds every time he got a kill or assist.

SukishooMar 3, 20161 votes

It is though cause he's not immune to you know other forms of CC.

WimbledofyMar 3, 20164 votes

If you have a skillshot cc it's very hard to land on him since he is running so fast, and he can always Q to avoid it. If you have targeted cc he can just Q.

SukishooMar 3, 20162 votes

Whatever you say, I hardly have issues against him.

My Waifu VanillaMar 3, 20164 votes

Ryze is one of the only champions able to consistently CC him. Lux? Dodge or Q through it. Same can be said for damn near every projectile CC. You also can't expect your entire team of rag tag solo queuers to stagger their CC or switch to Yi at all. I've seen people bott ignore Yi or blow multiple things at once to all get Alpha Striked.

Oh and if you try to hold on to your CC for after Alpha Strike you could be waiting until you see that gray screen because he can and will catch you since he is rocking the highest MS in the game and can attack while moving extremely well due to his fast AA animation.

Naag OneMar 4, 20161 votes

lissandra, nautilus, leona just from teh top of me head...

face it nub, u is a bronze scrub

HayRossMar 3, 20163 votes

We didn't need a bullshit amplifier

delonixMar 3, 201613 votes

only one champ

Is it Kog'maw or Kayle?

Bodkins OddsMar 4, 20161 votes

Probably Kog, his winrate was still above 50% after the nerfs if I remember right.

ErockandrollMar 3, 20167 votes

The only real problem is the synergy with AS. yet only very few abuse cases actually have that AS. (Namely Devourer, as well as the only champ who breaks the AS cap.)

You could tone down the synergy from the two items, but if you do so on Guinsoo's side, you ruin the item for everyone who isn't a Jungler. As for Kog'maw, that's one champ, he can be balanced around that synergy.

WadeWilson1337Mar 3, 20164 votes

Kayle

Bodkins OddsMar 4, 20161 votes

Also, Shyvana is scary with just item 1415 . With and item 3748 she's a monster.

Chibi TemplarMar 3, 20165 votes

Jax That push power is fucking obnoxious.

FalconPawwwwnchMar 3, 20165 votes

That 47% win rate outside the jungle is what I'd like to verse for free wins

My Waifu VanillaMar 3, 20167 votes

There is a difference between overpowered and obnoxious. People that literally never leave top lane are obnoxious. Is it an overpowered strategy? Debatable, but obnoxious.

Is Fizz OP? Hardly, but he is obnoxious. Same goes for Yorick or Vlad or Nasus or any other obnoxious champion.

Naag OneMar 4, 20161 votes

u either send a good Yi/Jax to kill a fed fizz/vlad/nasus/voli etc. or u send 4 members of your team for 1 and have rest of enemy end the game

Irelia BotMar 3, 20164 votes

Phantom attack is the problem.

cuddlykitten4Mar 3, 20164 votes

So you're raging about the rageblade? What a beautiful theatrical event placed atop a dictionary.

DownfallMar 3, 20162 votes

He's raging about devourer

Mandang0Mar 3, 20162 votes

He's raging about players raging about rageblade. Rageception.

(Also likely because he plays a rageblade champ and doesn't want it nerfed)

Robbit MangMar 3, 20164 votes

buying this item results in INSANE clear speeds in the jungle, and that would naturally mean farmer junglers who buy devourer would get faster stacks and a gigantic power spike with sated because the item itself synergizes very well with devourer.

its just too good together, apart its a pretty meh item.

YaskamasandwichMar 3, 20163 votes

Devourer was always a problem since day one. Just right now there's wayyy to much synergy with attack speed + attack damage. Before it was just Devourer + BORK. Now it is Devourer + Rageblade + Fervor, who needs any more items when you got this god like synergy going for jungle. BORK got cut out even because it is not broken enough.

And for laners it is Hurricane + Rageblade + Fervor. Hmmm Hurricane another item that is always either too weak or too op broken/abused by only a handful of champions.

Bodkins OddsMar 4, 20161 votes

I thought BorK got cut out because it's expensive as all hell.

YaskamasandwichMar 4, 20161 votes

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I thought BorK got cut out because it's expensive as all hell.

Touche I forgot about the expenses. Especially when compared to cheap ol' op rageblade.

Cosmic WarperMar 4, 20162 votes

I really think a good way to nerf devourer without removing it would be to make the phantom hit every third auto. The item + rageblade gives AS champs way too much burst when they're meant to be high damage duelists and cleanup carries. That class of champion shouldn't be able to burst you from 100-0 in 4 autos flat and build tanky to survive any incoming damage.

Bodkins OddsMar 4, 20161 votes

In that case though, they should probably un-nerf it for ranged.

EcchiOtakuTMMar 4, 20162 votes

Raise rageblade price to 3.1k, add recurve bow to the recipe, Move the base stats on rageblade to the passive and remove melee attack double stacking.

That would fix it's issues atm.