A reminder that Jarvan is not a viable assassin.

Ser Garland·Sep 14, 2015·2 votes·757 views

Anymore than Malphite is. He has no disengage after his engage ,an essential quality to an assassin . Once he goes in, he commits and if he can't kill his target in a very short amount of time, he dies. In team fights, assassin Jarvan will most likely kamikaze for a kill in a best case scenario.

What I'm saying is Jarvan was designed as a tank. He's best utilized as a fighter though because of his AD scaling, but he needs to build bulky because despite the irony of his extremely mobile kit, he's very immobile. Unlike most juggernauts though he has to work super hard these days to accomplish anything. He needs better stats.

Give him a 5 move speed boost or give him back his passive armour. The Days of Warrior Jungle are over and he could use some love.

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HugifySep 14, 20154 votes

Talon has disengage?

L RayquazaSep 14, 20152 votes

There are some people I have seen that still wreck with Jarvan, there is a plat 3 Jarvan main I watch on twitch named Pawnce, pretty chill dude too

Ser GarlandSep 14, 20151 votes

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There are some people I have seen that still wreck with Jarvan, there is a plat 3 Jarvan main I watch on twitch named Pawnce, pretty chill dude too

By no means am I saying Jarvan is bad. Jarvan is still very much a good champion. But I feel like I have to work twice as hard to play well with J4, then say, a Garen or a Mordekaiser. Fifty percent of his damage in a rotation is whether or not you hit your Q, and he's too naturally squishy to allow ANY mistakes. Even when I build practically full tank after my first damage item, I feel like I get bursted and punished pretty fast if I miss one EQ.

TL;DR When I don't miss any Dragon Strikes, I'm golden. When I do, I'm screwed.

StealthWardenSep 14, 20151 votes

Jarvan Support

#NewMeta

BakedLotionSep 14, 20151 votes

Who needs to escape when you can 5 man knockup with malphite and instakill one, leaving 4 with 20% hp????

BlastermineSep 14, 20151 votes

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Who needs to escape when you can 5 man knockup with malphite and instakill one, leaving 4 with 20% hp????

Ah, yes the wonder that was Assassin Sejuani before riot removed Deathfire Grasp and nerfed Lichbane.

Woook3rSep 14, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ser Garland,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8wOZwRpU,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-14T14:33:47.430+0000)

Anymore than Malphite is. He has no disengage after his engage ,an essential quality to an assassin . Once he goes in, he commits and if he can't kill his target in a very short amount of time, he dies. In team fights, assassin Jarvan will most likely kamikaze for a kill in a best case scenario.

What I'm saying is Jarvan was designed as a tank. He's best utilized as a fighter though because of his AD scaling, but he needs to build bulky because despite the irony of his extremely mobile kit, he's very immobile. Unlike most juggernauts though he has to work super hard these days to accomplish anything. He needs better stats.

Give him a 5 move speed boost or give him back his passive armour. The Days of Warrior Jungle are over and he could use some love.

I thought chammpions with mobile kits were mobile? And champions with immobile kits were immobile