do these champions with way less skill required have more of a fun/fair factor to them?
(etc)
"Yasuo is so annoying, i'd rather face an annie"- sarcasm 2015
sheepism or realism
Whismurmur2 votesfound the retarded yasuo main.
Athenes Lulu2 votesA lot of champion designers (ahem Gypsylord) are notorious for making some of the most annoying champions.
CT just happens to take a lot of the blame because most of his champs are "antifun" to go against. And plus, they have no clear weaknesses unlike some of the annoying champs have (i.e. Jinx is allergic to dives, Lulu gets countered by either heavy poke or sustain, Gnar's forms can be easily abused, etc).
HentRex1 votesI feel the main reason people dislike CT's champs is because all of the champions you posted have a distinctive counter champion wise. CT's champions are typically more versatile, than the average. And thus lack a "clear" counter. I feel Riot in general over buffs champs pre release/rework to get people playing them and spending money on them.
Icestar11861 votesDon't counterpick. Counterplay.
HentRex1 votesI get that, just saying that I think this is the reason other people don't like his work. I like most of the work he's done.
SaltyKracka2 votesThis just in. There isn't any.
That's how you know these are CertainlyT champs
Icestar11861 votes... Darius: Kite, peel Yasuo: CC and burst, dodge tornado, don't throw skillshots at wind wall Kalista: CC, attack speed slows, burst, etc. Mordekaiser: Kite, peel etc.
SaltyKracka1 votes"Just CC and burst them"
Wow, so counterplay. It's not like that doesn't work on 99% of champions in the game or anything.
Icestar11861 votesTanks. As someone explained much more eloquently that me (I'll try and find the thread), CC affects some champions much more than others. Think about it. Will a stun help you more if you waste it on the tank or if you hit the ADC? If the tank gets focused, he did his job. You now have nothing off of cooldown and are getting obliterated by the rest of the team.
SEKAI1 votesDon't counterpick. Counterplay.
Where is the counterplay when they have a straight up bigger kit than yours most of the time?
Use another kit truck to play against them? Use more mobility to counter mobility? Use more CC to counter CC? Use more damage to counter damage?
That's many players' ideal in a nutshell right there, and it really just doesn't work because balance do not simply work like that.
Doctor Jarvis1 votesYes. I can't adequately explain it, but when any of these champs (except Fizz) kills me, it does not infuriate me anywhere near the level of anger I get when Yasuo kills me.
1000angrybees1 votesI'm completely fine with Braum and Soraka. I don't really get why they're up there.
Also you forgot shaco.
The Bearded Bard1 votesI made a list of my top ten least favorite champions to play against:
In no particular order.
Lugg1 votesOverloaded champions are always the worst to play against. They have so much in their kits that they have an answer to anything you try to do. This makes them toxic to begin with, not to mention it makes them almost impossible to balance. They are pretty much always OP or UP.
SEKAI1 votesdo these champions with way** less skill required **.....
This seems to be a theme running in CT's fan base (and some other champs like Lee and Vayne for example). Skill required does not determine a champ's strength, that's game balance 101.
And No, his champs do not require more skill, they just require you do clicks more often. And guess what, the real skill lies in kits where if it's on CD, then it's bloody on CD, and not the ones where you spam spam spam and look all flashy.
Gypsylord and Xypherous make very annoying champs, true, but most of them at least still have weaknesses in their kit and are definitely abusable.
While on the other hand, almost all of CertainlyT's champs (outside of Morde who is straight up broken as shiet) are either annoying as hell, have almost none fundamental weaknesses what so ever or just both, and you're tasked to simply pray that they dun themselves goofed to play against them. And that's garbage design in this game.
His whiteknights only make things worse most of the time, because they tend to think he's some kind of messiah coming to save League, while in reality he is 80% a dickbag who takes no responsibility and lives in his own world.
