Umm, i see a significant lack of victor nerfs on PBE

SwiftKitten88··11 votes·726 views

right now in pretty much EVERY LCS game you see either aAzir a Viktor or both

now azir got some nerfs so i'm going to ignore him for this thread.

but victor? why is he STILL untouched

not only does his item 3198 he he crazy good early ap.. it gives him an 180 AP item lategame

he has an AOE line and that does huge damage TWICE and a decent single target spell that then makes his next auto also do crazy damage

plus his ulti once he upgrades the speed is IMPOSSIBLE to outrun even with bothsummoner 4 ANDsummoner 6 (i dont remember which lcs match it was in, but i saw it...) because he always has aitem 3116

quite frankly victor is good into ANY mid lane matchup

you know the champ is SUPPOSED to have the "best waveclear" mid lane? Ziggs

yet he cant even hold a candle to Viktor , who can clear an ENTIRE wave with ONE spell

i dont mind victor being a "strong pick" he deserves to be... especially after his pitiful existence in season 1-3. but he needs some counters.. he needs to lose some waveclear. he needs his ulti to be slower so they you can at leats escape it with a summoner spell.. let alone not being able to escape it after blowing TWO escape summoners

he shouldn't be strictly better than almost ANY other mid laner in almost ANY matchup

i dont mind seeing victor... but i would like to watch some LCS games and play some of my own games without seeing him EVERY GAME unless he is banned.

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MunchCrunchLunch5 votes

a lot of champions counter him. they just don't care about the 1v1 match up in pro play because 99% of the time. the jungler is on standby if a fight happens. 1 or two teleports are on standby. they just need the best champs at waveclearing and not using a lot of mana.viktor and azir are

blfUvZ8Ybu3 votes

Because Viktor came into meta patch 6.9

Also Viktor will get some nerfs patch 6.14

But you aren't honest.You should say same things about 4 op adc's. (Jhin, Sivir, Cait, Ashe)

YurÌ on Ice3 votes

He's not OP, he just has good zoning and control, waveclear? nothing out of ordinary or extraneous. Every midlaner needs good waveclear (and they all have that). If nerfed at all he should just deal less damage to minions and that would be a terrible nerf because midlaners need waveclear, that's the line between them and midlane assassins, they have superior waveclear while assassins have superior 1v1/mobility/roams.

Ofcourse the LCS has a meta, but it does'n call for nerfs. You nerf a champ out of meta they're gonna move to another. It does'n make a fucking difference. Viktor, vlad and swain were there since forever, they just hit the meta a few patches ago and now they're constantly picked (and to be fair the whole champ pool in LCS is tiny. In every single game you will see the same champions in all the roles)

Ballzin3 votes

Silver 5 is hardly the place where you can say viktor is imbalanced/balanced. Also, his massive aoe dmg spells (laser and ult) have a large window of time in which you need to be standing in it to be hit by them. Yes they hit hard but they don't just hit hard willy nilly, you have to be standing still to get rocked by them. Either you're cced by his other teammates or you're standing still while fighting him (which isn't smart when fighting any champ).

His hexcore may seem super powerful but it's actually a bit of a money pit for him early game. He must get it to have the bonuses that make him play well (buffs to his spells) but he loses ap because of it (rushing ludens is more efficient) which makes him weaker early game. He's a lot like any other late game champ. You punish him early or roam and deal with his scaling late game accordingly (which can be done with cc and focus from the team).

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

his item isn't what should be nerfed

SwiftKitten882 votes

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his item isn't what should be nerfed

when did i say he item should be nerfed? i never said that, i stated the item he had. and becuase guess what has ALWAYS has that item.. he probably should be balanced around HAVING the item.

i said he needs to lose waveclear, he needs a slower ulti and he needs come real champs that can counterpick him... i said absolutely nothing about his item needing nerfs

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

when did i say that you said this? i'm just saying that riot shouldn't nerf the item like they did when viktor was op in s5.

Igotlazy1 votes

It's only the first week of the cycle. We'll probably see something.

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

TBH my biggest problem with him is lane interaction they need to make his E deal 15% reduced damage to minions on the first strike and the explosion

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

just like the guy above me said. to summarize it all. lcs and pro players make their own meta. so even if they nerfed every champion that is played a lot there. they will move onto a new 15-20 champs that get picked over and over i doubt there will ever be a time where idk. not the 130 but half or even a third of the whole champion pool is picked a lot in lcs

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