There are no weak champions in league

SwapShadows·Jun 6, 2015·13 votes·1,193 views

just no-names waiting to be played in the LCS so sheep can start calling them OP

41 Comments

WalkingInACircleJun 6, 20156 votes

Go play 100 games of Gangplank and come back and try to tell me that again.

Joe DreddJun 6, 20153 votes

watch him come back with a >70% win rate rofl

Silents429Jun 6, 20152 votes

Hello Gangplank main here, I laugh at your funny statement, and say Gangplank does really well. And no I don't build critplank I go the usual fighter build on him, And have been able to dual champions like Fiora and Jax with some ease.

He isn't in the greatest spot no, but thankfully Riot is giving him some love soon.

DropFillJun 6, 20151 votes

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Hello Gangplank main here, I laugh at your funny statement, and say Gangplank does really well. And no I don't build critplank I go the usual fighter build on him, And have been able to dual champions like Fiora and Jax with some ease.

He isn't in the greatest spot no, but thankfully Riot is giving him some love soon.

fiora is trash

Only Play DariusJun 6, 20151 votes

She may be trash, but she is still THE 1v1 champ of the league.

DropFillJun 6, 20152 votes

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She may be trash, but she is still THE 1v1 champ of the league.

Irelia Malzahar Riven Jax Darius Tryndamere You sure?

IcyPepperJun 6, 20151 votes

And Poppy is _the _ 1v2 but it's secretly a 1v1 champion!

Only Play DariusJun 7, 20152 votes

And then once she gets full build, she evolves into a 1v4 champion!

NemeBroJun 6, 20151 votes

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You sure?

Fiora would rip Riven and probably Irelia's heads off late game to be honest (actually, she beats up on Riven in the early and mid game as well, lol). Malzahar too if she has a Mercurial Scimitar. Jax does directly counter Fiora, however. If she can't abuse his weak early game there's not much she can do.

edit: I see you added Darius and Tryndamere.

Tryndamere probably beats her late game, and early game it's a skill match up. Few duelists late-game can fight Tryndamere.

Darius? Early game he can beat her. Late game, probably not. Even in the early game Fiora can beat Darius.

DropFillJun 6, 20151 votes

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Fiora would rip Riven and probably Irelia's heads off late game to be honest (actually, she beats up on Riven in the early and mid game as well, lol). Malzahar too if she has a Mercurial Scimitar. Jax does directly counter Fiora, however. If she can't abuse his weak early game there's not much she can do.

edit: I see you added Darius and Tryndamere.

Tryndamere probably beats her late game, and early game it's a skill match up. Few duelists late-game can fight Tryndamere.

Darius? Early game he can beat her. Late game, probably not. Even in the early game Fiora can beat Darius.

Darius W fucks up hard fiora. He can also buy randuins thornmail , making her pretty useless in a 1v1. Mercurial scimitar? She will still take the damage. Malzahar can also zhonyas her ult. Riven vs Fiora is a skill matchup, where riven is wayyy more safer

NemeBroJun 6, 20151 votes

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Darius W fucks up hard fiora. He can also buy randuins thornmail , making her pretty useless in a 1v1. Mercurial scimitar? She will still take the damage. Malzahar can also zhonyas her ult. Riven vs Fiora is a skill matchup, where riven is wayyy more safer

She can parry the W, and since most of Darius' burst without his ult is in it that would fuck him up hard.

Randuins are thornmail are countered by lifesteal, and Fiora typically buys RH and BT. Darius doesn't have the damage or durability to fight Fiora in the late game.

Okay, so? Malzahar will still take more damage than Fiora will, especially if she's bought some defense along with her offense, like a spirit visage. She frankly probably doesn't need her ult to kill Malzahar.

Fiora is one of Riven's biggest counters that isn't Renekton or Garen. Fiora outdamages Riven early and scales better into late game as a duelist.

Only Play DariusJun 7, 20151 votes

Thornmail is not countered by lifesteal, not in the slightest.

It's countered by magic resist and armor pen.

Only Play DariusJun 7, 20151 votes

You forgot the king of 1v1's, MasterYi .

But yes, i'm sure, she's titled _The Grand Duelist _ for a reason.

NemeBroJun 6, 20152 votes

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fiora is trash

That must be why she consistently has among the highest win rates in the entire game.

Being bad in pro play doesn't equate to being bad in Solo Q.

IcyPepperJun 6, 20151 votes

Reminds me of the "Fiora Effect" video I've seen before.

NemeBroJun 6, 20151 votes

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Reminds me of the "Fiora Effect" video I've seen before.

It's true. Some champs bad in pro play are great at stomping Solo Q.

IcyPepperJun 7, 20151 votes

Imagine Dyrus playing Fiora tho...

Guess there's a reason he doesn't (get to) play assassins. Poor guy.

NarasimhaJun 6, 20155 votes

Well, other than Elise. Or Gangplank. Or Mordekaiser. or Yorick (after laning, atleast).

Vistha KaiJun 6, 20155 votes

Elise? Is that the one throwing axes?

Chaotic ReksJun 6, 20152 votes

no. i think that's Evelynn

Shrek LuigiJun 6, 20151 votes

Draven : it's me! Olaf : no, me!

Silents429Jun 6, 20152 votes

Mordekaiser isn't any less useless then most mages, And turning a fight from a 5v5 to 4v6 is insane.

Yorick being able to do a similar thing with his own ADC is also pretty strong, along with his wave clear for good split pushing.

NarasimhaJun 6, 20152 votes

Mordekaiser isn't any less useless then most mages

Except in 95% of all situations, he is. He can't siege without putting himself at risk. He can't burst unless the target is already low. And because he's melee, he has to always be in the middle of things. So either he builds full glass cannon and hopes to kill something before he dies, or he builds bruiser and trades damage for survivability.

Rinky DinkyJun 6, 20151 votes

Sounds like you just either A: have no idea how to play mordekaiser, or B: Hate him just because "muh meta"

There is a reason mordekaiser usually has a 53%+ winrate

Vistha KaiJun 6, 20152 votes

The reason being that only dedicated people play him, so people who play him can utilize his kit however terrible it wouldn't be.

Rinky DinkyJun 6, 20151 votes

I could say the same for elise, yet her winrate is the lowest in the game.

Vistha KaiJun 7, 20153 votes

Let's face it. Elise is an overnerfed piece of garbage that is denied to be decent at anything.

Morde can at least farm and ignore poke.

Silents429Jun 6, 20151 votes

Eh? I don't think you have played against a decent Mordekaiser he can burst, His E is devastating.

And you build cooldown reduction and spell vamp, you don't need a bunch of tanky items because you can easily keep your passive up in the middle of team fights.

Rinky DinkyJun 6, 20151 votes

Calling Mordekaiser weak lol

Calling yorick weak lol

551202Jun 6, 20151 votes

The lcs players made all those weak champs "playable" for this season Ryze Gragas Sejuani Hecarim Evelynn Urgot Warwick Sivir , even ad top Fizz

Playing Hecarim top was NOT a good pick and not allowed (unless u wanted to be insulted by your team) until the lcs players play him and say he is op, then now EVERYONE play Hecarim with summoner 14 summoner 12 even if they die due to lack of summoner 4 They don't give a fck! they just copy the lcs players because they think they will win that way...

Now that a lcs player played Ryze after his rework ,his pick/ban rate increased and all the Riven Irelia mains play Ryze now.

Focus TeemoJun 7, 20151 votes

Disclamier: Sej is being used an example, and this does NOT represent my opinion on her current state of balance.

People like you DON'T READ PATCH NOTES!

What you sound like "Guys i played Sejuani months ago, and was flamed for it... but now shes OP? Well she has clearly always been this good! People are such LCS sheep am i right?"

V4.21:

Stats Base health increased to 600 from 599.6. Base mana increased to 400 from 287.2. Arctic Assault Base damage increased to 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 from 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160. Damage scaling from target's maximum health removed. Flail of the Northern Mana cost reduced to 40 / 35 / 30 / 25 / 20 from 40 at all ranks. On-hit damage changed to 4 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 % (+3% per 100 AP) of target's maximum health from 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 (+30% AP). Total aura damage changed to 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 (+60% AP) (+4 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12% maximum health) from 80 / 120 / 160 / 200 / 240 (+60% AP) (+10% bonus health). Permafrost Cooldown reduced to 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 seconds from 11 at all ranks. Base damage reduced to 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 from 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260. Slow duration reduced to 1.5 seconds at all ranks from 1.5 / 1.75 / 2 / 2.25 / 2.5

item 3751 item 3709 item 3717 item 3721 item 3725 are added to the game.

WOW I WONDER WHY SHE IS GOOD NOW? I mean it was clearly just pros convincing us she was good... its not like anything CHANGES in league!

READ THE PATCH NOTES FFS.

FriusJun 6, 20151 votes

KAYLE ???? no one picks her cause they dont want to lose money for picking trash tier dps

Only Play DariusJun 6, 20151 votes

Aatrox Elise DrMundo Gangplank Olaf Nasus Zac

Trash tier exists. The only reason champs like Urgot end up seeing competitive play is because they just got buffs recently ( <3 CertainlyT )

NemeBroJun 6, 20151 votes

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Trash tier exists. The only reason champs like end up seeing competitive play is because they just got buffs recently ( <3 CertainlyT )

Nasus isn't bad, lol.

Everyone else there has some issues, but Nasus' only real problem is that if the game starts to lose five to ten minutes in there is basically nothing you can do.

Only Play DariusJun 7, 20151 votes

Trust me I know, I main Nasus lol.

He is good in the right hands, but his weaknesses outweigh his strengths. In SoloQ people don't listen to your MIA's and fight 4v5's in enemy jg and feed your lane opponent, In competitive play he gets kited so hard in team fights that he can never get a single Q off.

Silents429Jun 6, 20151 votes

A lot of those aren't trash tier..

straight4freeJun 7, 20151 votes

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Trash tier exists. The only reason champs like end up seeing competitive play is because they just got buffs recently ( <3 CertainlyT )

Zac might get nerfs if Azingy keeps playing him.

dalphy08Jun 7, 20151 votes

Yes

Focus TeemoJun 7, 20151 votes

Haha its cute you think that OP... Meteos has tried to make Elise work over the past few months, picked her in the LCS, and it failed every time. Pros don't pick champions because they like them, they pick what they can win with!

https://twitter.com/meteoslol/status/600884745216491520

Please note: TSM TheOddOne also comments further down why no one plays Elise currently, whether you like her or not.

In this case Meteos for example STOPPED picking Elise a champion he likes, because she's no longer good enough to win games in the pro scene.

I mean do you honestly believe Pros all like the same 20-40 champions? You think EVERY jungler for example just LOVES Lee Sin? NO they learned to play him because he was the strongest competitive pick for years!