Illaoi needs her W to be more reliable

Pyrithegethon·Oct 31, 2017·12 votes·958 views

It is slow, it is clunky, it cancels all the time, and it does no bonus damage to structures.

Making her W smoother, not super easy to cancel, and faster can make her a better to play, especially late game.

15 Comments

SpiritOfOdysseusOct 31, 20174 votes

Well... Take a look at all the bugs the illaoi mains have found on reddit; https://www.reddit.com/r/illaoimains/ its not all on the first page, but hardly any of it is noticed (by Riot).

Shes got her issues, her W just being one of them. One of my biggest pet peeves is her stationary tentacle range needs a circle or something that only illaoi can see as a range finder, exactly like heimers turrets. I cant tell you how many times ive W'd and gotten myself killed.

kargishOct 31, 20173 votes

In exchange we'll give her E a longer cast time yes yes

Paladin 0f LifeOct 31, 20171 votes

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In exchange we'll give her E a longer cast time yes yes Easily the most annoying ability in the game.

PyrithegethonOct 31, 20172 votes

Honestly her E is the biggest issue with Illaoi. Here is how it plays out in lane outside being used to harrass.

She landed E? Youre fucked.

She missed E? She just got a gray screen.

Her E needs to be nerfed so that she isnt reliant on E+R but needs her kit to be buffed elsewhere. Perhaps just her R so that it can be a lot more reliable. Making it automatically slam enemies in the aoe on cast?

ZerenzaOct 31, 20171 votes

First, i don't have trouble with her E being the "Only" good skill she has, i use Q to harass(i also maxx it considering it increases the damage of all her tentacles) and have gotten pretty good at waiting until the perfect time to throw out an E, a good time to E in my opinion is to prevent an All-In. If you never use it for harass it'll always be up in case of a Gank or All-In.

Her E+R isn't unreliable if you use this method because your opponent will have to fight you to make you use it, and if you never use it/never miss it because you never use it at the wrong time your opponent has to constantly worry about the ability. In addition, illaoi isn't a "Proactive" champion like most juggernauts, she isn't meant to all-in opponents and simply overpower them, she's meant to be a wall that they can't get through, she's the Anti-Engage champion she's the "Don't fight me, i'll kill you" champion. Her entire lore, kit and voice lines even support this.

Note: In certain match up's where she's exceptionally dominant though it's okay to be super aggro but in most you just want to hang back and create pressure by zoning and pushing them off instead, that way their forced to fight you and lose.

RainbowIceeOct 31, 20173 votes

League of legends needs more Cthulhu.

PopcornBunniNov 1, 20172 votes

She needs more tweaks than just a smoother W to be relevant in team fights without breaking her laning even more against he melee characters that struggle against her.

Tentacles would need to spawn faster to facilitate roaming and pushing, while they would need to have a cooldown where they could respawn from the same spot for when her timer is off cooldown, but no where is there for a new one to spawn, so one respawns IMMEDIATELY when a short-range melee character finally manages to take one out.

Her E hitbox is also very narrow and ends up relying more on creepblock than proper prediction most of the time, against effecting the already struggling melee opponents while ranged ones can just laugh at her.

Her E is also obviously easier to lane in close quarters, and the mechanic to fight against it is another one that skews toward fucking over melees and giving ranged characters a freeroll. Since the test length is shortened by number of attacks alone, slow, ability focused top laners have problems figthing through it. Have it be damage-based instead and it instantly gains more consistent counterplay.

She'd need a more relevant form of stickiness to draw out cooldowns in the later game as well, something straight buffs wouldn't facilitate. Really she could do with a mechanical retooling akin to Heimerdinger, Kindred, and Azir, failings though those reworks had. As-is she's just too matchup reliant, being either worthless or backbreaking depending on her lane opponent.

BlåbæretOct 31, 20171 votes

Illaoi needs her W to be more reliable

Nah, she doesn't.

Gear5LuffyOct 31, 20171 votes

maybe rework he W where she takes control of tentacles and chooses when and how they slam

ZerenzaOct 31, 20171 votes

I like the short dash on her W, it's saved my life several times.

Gear5LuffyNov 1, 20172 votes

yeah but the fact the it channels so much of her ult power and if it gets canceled she is useless makes it not worth maybemake ult animation faster and not have cc immunity and add cc immunity to W after her ult is on so at least she can have a strong zone dmg

ZerenzaNov 1, 20171 votes

If she had cc immunity on her W during ult she'd be completely broken.

ZerenzaOct 31, 20171 votes

Her W can be annoying, but the reason it is how it is is so you can't animation cancel it and still deal damage/ get a tentacle to slam(most likely). The animation HAS to go through is how it's programmed, so it's not a bug just how riot intended her to be, even though it's annoying and probably not necessary.

LordGeovanniNov 1, 20171 votes

Not cancel yea but it really doesnt need to be faster. i like playing other fighters top