[CONTROVERSIAL] If the trends to Kalista that we see on this patch carry over 6.7...

Masala Chai·Mar 29, 2016·3 votes·1,921 views

Can we give her a little care package for 6.9?

She's really underperforming in solo queue, near the bottom of her role (or at the bottom of her role) in nearly every category. Her playrate is continuing to drop, but her winrate (as FOTM "mains" move to another ADC) is still moving down. Competetive be damned.

She currently has no winning lanes, Her best lane is vs Lucian at 47.15% winrate. I will mystery gift the first person who reads this sentence and mentions it in a comment. And I feel like a care package to Rend or Pierce would help with her with solo queue without affecting her competitive power.

She definitely needed nerfs, but these past nerfs made it a lot less rewarding for communication with her support, and affected her already very poor 1v1 potential a lot. I would much rather you nerf her passive than touch her damage.

31 Comments

MatezoideMar 29, 20163 votes

Kalista is cancer and should never be allowed be strong. She needs more nerfs if anything

TahmKench ExpertMar 30, 20163 votes

Kalista has no winning lanes. Her best winrate is 47% against lucian.

I win.

I'll take my rusty blitzcrank now please.

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/948TE5Xf-this-gameplay-board-is-so-circlejerky?comment=000100000000000000000000

No one before you read that specific sentence, and I ended the window for the free mystery gift because I was pissed at the community for blatantly downvoting someone without even reading an entire post.

If you just chanced upon this thread, well. Sorry. :(

SaltyKrackaMar 30, 20161 votes

Stop being a shit and give the man his prize.

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

there. check above. or below. I don't know. I don't like being called shit anyway. Am I really nothing more than a piece of dung?

the Anarchit3chtMar 30, 20161 votes

Something tells me you wouldn't give him one anyway.

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

check above or below, depending. You guys are so rude.

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

Fine. IGN, now. I'll need to farm up some Bing Rewards for that. That should take 3 weeks at most. Just think of it as shipping and handling. Add me anytime you want, I'm on practically everyday.

the Anarchit3chtMar 30, 20161 votes

:) see. much better. it's not that you should HAVE to get him a gift(especially if your financial situation cant support it) merely that you shouldn't offer something if you can't actually or don't intend to actually follow up on it. i apologize if i came off as rude.

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

It's not that my financial situation is bad. It's that I'm a minor and practically "locked in" my house. It's not so bad here, I can send you money with postage and everything. I wonder if Rito can just allow me to send a letter through the mail with cash, and as for a credit to my account. I don't know.

the Anarchit3chtMar 30, 20161 votes

You should never send money through the mail to anyone, for any reason.

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

Alright then, I'm horribly stupid. I'm 15, probably more like 8, oh boo hoo. Feelzbadman.

ugh. any other ideas that way I can get RP? Hopefully without my parents noticing because you know. Parents. as an Asian. Feelzbad.

the Anarchit3chtMar 30, 20161 votes

You really aren't obligated to get it and I don't think anyone is going to really hate or dislike you for not getting it, especially with the situation explained. To me, this was more of a lesson to you on not making promises or offering things you don't exactly have the means to keep or deliver on.

If you're really set on actually getting him a mystery gift, I'd suggest buying a prepaid Riot card, you can get them at a bunch of stores--basically anywhere you can get like Apple, Xbox, Playstation cards of the same nature. You can try and find a store that carries them as well as find out more information about them here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/community/prepaid-cards

Masala ChaiMar 30, 20161 votes

Well thanks for the resource, I suppose. Regardless, you guys called me a PoS so I think people will hate/ dislike me regardless. Still getting him the mystery gift anyways, if I'm lucky I'll get you one too. Hopefully. Damn.

Edit: The closest x store on that list is 7 miles away from my address. That's a good 2 hours of walking both ways. I'll see if I can somehow make this work. Hopefully. In the meantime, Microsoft.

the Anarchit3chtMar 30, 20161 votes

I personally never said anything like that. The other person who did, it mostly appeared to be a more of a tongue in cheek, joking manner, I'm sure they were not seriously trying to offend you. I'm also sure that Prince Cobalt isn't going to have their life ruined if they do not receive the mystery skin--especially considering they asked for Rusty Blitzcrank, which is a skin that has been removed. That being said, I'd like to decline your offer a skin. I have plenty of them already, thank you though. Should you actually do this, spend the rest on yourself :) Its your money after all... in the end how you spend it is up to you.

Really, don't take what they said too hard. The mostly appeared to be joking.

TahmKench ExpertMar 30, 20161 votes

Holy shit taco.

I'm cool with getting nothing. It's all cool. I'm fine with just having a laugh about this.

Masala ChaiMar 31, 20161 votes

I will sooner die than break a promise that I have made to another, I may have broken a promise to myself. But I will not break a promise to someone I have guaranteed it.

NeoBrawlerMar 29, 20162 votes

The whole point of kalista is to be able to never be hit in team fights and out maneuver every other champ in league. She is purely skill based since she has nothing for free anymore with the mana return taken away. She is God in the hands that know how to play her and awful to pick up if you are new to her mechanics. She is a great ADC but it's the state of the game that is hindering her. Once we are able to teamfight without losing it all, then we will see her win rate rise. She is everything an ADC wants so if she is buffed, it risks it being a to much and having to just nerf her again. It's the state of the game rather than the champion herself.

Wolfram OxfordMar 29, 20161 votes

"She is God in the hands that know how to play her"

Not anymore bud, she got gutted by Riot, they know it, all of us ADC mains know it. I used to love Kalista and was good at her, but with these nerfs upon nerfs since release she is garbage. I could tolerate them a bit when s6 came along and gave Runaan's crit but with these recent nerfs its honestly a nail in the coffin. As an ADC you are supposed to supply DPS and scale well into the late game. Her niche was being good early game and getting ahead where her garbage late game was made up for. But with this hit to her early game via AS and W damage nerf she isn't good at all. I honestly can't see her ever being viable again with the harsh treatment Riot has given her. Honestly, Riot will see anything new that turns into a staple champion in pro play as overpowered and will take it too far with balance changes. With Kalista they did this, instead of looking into why she was staple. The main reason was her early lane dominance and her synergy with her support. The concept of a champion having to synergize with another was completely emphasized through Kalista, making her unique and pretty safe over all. But Riot saw this as a problem and nerfed her into the ground bit by bit until now, where I am again sure they will never give her any big changes ever again.

RIP KALISTA 2016

ParoeMar 29, 20161 votes

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"She is God in the hands that know how to play her"

Not anymore bud, she got gutted by Riot, they know it, all of us ADC mains know it. I used to love Kalista and was good at her, but with these nerfs upon nerfs since release she is garbage. I could tolerate them a bit when s6 came along and gave Runaan's crit but with these recent nerfs its honestly a nail in the coffin. As an ADC you are supposed to supply DPS and scale well into the late game. Her niche was being good early game and getting ahead where her garbage late game was made up for. But with this hit to her early game via AS and W damage nerf she isn't good at all. I honestly can't see her ever being viable again with the harsh treatment Riot has given her. Honestly, Riot will see anything new that turns into a staple champion in pro play as overpowered and will take it too far with balance changes. With Kalista they did this, instead of looking into why she was staple. The main reason was her early lane dominance and her synergy with her support. The concept of a champion having to synergize with another was completely emphasized through Kalista, making her unique and pretty safe over all. But Riot saw this as a problem and nerfed her into the ground bit by bit until now, where I am again sure they will never give her any big changes ever again.

RIP KALISTA 2016

Kalista top broski. Its not only fun, but the island setting really helps get her going.

MettanoiaMar 29, 20161 votes

the problem with that is, she loses out on a shit ton of attack speed without the jg camping her, and she has no ult until they come for a gank (tho they should be godly)

theonlyaustinMar 29, 20162 votes

she is still almost 100% pick ban rate in LCS. she has one of the strongest if not the strongest laning phase in the game with her rend almost guaranteeing that she will not miss cs to somebody who can properly use it. All I'm seeing is that you need to git gud

ForgiveColourMar 29, 20161 votes

You know that the new patch havent carried over to lcs yet right?

Masala ChaiMar 29, 20161 votes

Gosu thinks she's garbage in SQ post 6.6 nerfs.

Her winrate Plat+ is abysmal too.

Are Diamond and Challenger tier players bad then?

Athenes LuluMar 30, 20162 votes

Considering that I have seen players not even knowing how to play Lulu support, yes.

A shield that could've saved a life? Nope, better attempt to 1v1 the full HP Blitz and Sivir. Yes that's the shit you see on spec live.

Just an example that they too, can be bad.

RatbertMar 30, 20161 votes

I dunno, there are numerous plat players that are worse than bots. I mean, I had a game where a yasuo built item 3057 for "magic damage".

KoggyStyleMar 29, 20161 votes

mabye people arent picking the right supports for her?

ViashinoWizardMar 29, 20161 votes

Kalista can stop getting nerfed when they take away her passive.

CalabokMar 29, 20161 votes

So your post in short is: Buff Kalista

Just keep it short already

Masala ChaiMar 29, 20161 votes

But only if the trends carry over to the next patch, whenever Kalista is usually nerfed, her winrate drops a bit, and then slowly climbs back up throughout the course of the patch.

In this case, Kalista's winrate is dropping, and it is continuing to drop.

And if you're playing a champion where you have 0 lanes that you even remotely excel in, what is the point of even playing that champion?

NeoBrawlerMar 31, 20161 votes

If anything. Kalista shouldn't have been made in the first place. Her kit is toxic and over loaded. She is thy best ADC if she has the same damage ratios as a normal ADC. It's like how kass was with ad and unkillable without CC. Her nerfs are more for the LCS than for pub play anyways. If you get good you win.