Supports are much stronger than they were two seasons ago

RankOneUganda··11 votes·658 views

the biggest problem right now is that what seems to have been forgotten is that supports first and foremost are catered in helping the ad carry survive and potentially deal more damage.

I mean am not very good at explaining things at a high intellect level . simply am not the greatest writer. but how do I put this in words

a year ago we had two ways of helping the adc survive through items. one is locket. the other the face of mountain items.

lets look at what have we introduced to make it even harder to take out ad carries

item 3107 item 3190 (new locket gives a much better shield on tanks). item 3504 and the keystone mastery that gives armor/mr and increases healing. item 3109 . the keystone that lets adc's lifesteal based on your HP.

you can currently get

+20% increases healing and shielding from mikael +10% from keystone +10% from redemption +10% from ardent censor

all of this led champions like soraka sona and janna. that if you recall. used to build items that give ap. such as the old banner which was almost always built on them. into them building a lot of hp and resistances and becoming an unreliable target to kill in a team fight due to how hard it is to kill them

btw that increased healing and shielding pretty much negates grievous wounds . thats not counting in that blood thirster, bork and death dance give more healing than they did in the past because they give more attack damage now.

you added the items to make supports more fun to play. at the same time what did you do to counter balance these changes? so far nothing really.

a great example if you watch high elo junglers or top laners. scarra sometimes or iwd. they build redemption locket and knights vow on tanks to spam them on their ad carry

tldr: buffing supports kits and items over the past two years has a side effect that enabled ad carries way too much. gave them way too much survivability. adding on we're giving them more xp and gold (way more) than before

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Handin Out Naps8 votes

Meanwhile everyone on the boards is complaining about Adcs. S u p p o r t s a r e f i n e i t s j u s t t h e m e t a x d.

Anags2 votes

I don't know that supports themselves feel stronger but some of them are now walking steroids for their ADC. And the ADC is just melting people. That is why people are upset.

ProfDrDeath4 votes

It is part of the problem, but not the only part.

Another contributing factor is how cheap the dominant three-item spike of ADCs currently is. With IE and two Zeal upgrades, most ADCs have really good offensive, and it comes at 8600 gold. Compare 3-items spikes for mages and assasins: AP assassins and mages' three-item spike costs 8.7k to 9.4k (three out of item 3165 item 3102 item 3157 item 3151 item 3285 item 3030 item 3146 item 3100 item 3003 item 3027 ) and doesn't include their big multiplier item, whereas AD assassins' spike costs 8.8k (Duskblade Ghostblade Cleaver).

Ben Sharpio2 votes

I engaged on an out of position adc with my telegraphed skillshot. Just as they were about to die, i get point and click exhausted, they get point and click healed/shielded, braindead support presses 1 button (that isn't a skillshot) and the AD carry uses heal and now the ADC is not only** FULL HP AGAIN**, but they also now have a bunch of steroids injected into their assholes and i'm being melted by their burst per second.

This is how it feels to play as an engager right now

#make support a skillful role

RankOneUganda1 votes

dont play engage unless its j4 because of stoneplate and his W interaction. its really impossible to dive in this meta. you aren't going to kill an adc.

literally played a game where a deathless vayne tanked about 20k damage. as much as her tank support.

JaxMoonStealer2 votes

Make enchanters a skillfull class*

EinarUlfar1 votes

What's more of an issue, the support's kits or the itemization?

'Cause I personally feel it's the itemization (the obvious Ardent Censer being an issue aside), but I'm but a wee Gold with Gold-level knowledge, and am not exactly confident in my assessment.

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