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ok... im sorry you hate her... but nidalee needs a buff

SwiftKitten88··7 votes·1,426 views

EDIT: ok people... worlds was played on patch 6.18... aka TWO MONTHS AGO... NOT THE LIVE SERVERS. if you didn't notice the ~~TEN ~~ TWELVE PERCENT WINRATE DROP, let me tell you.. she HAS been nerfed since then...

I'm NOT asking for a buff to her 54% plat+ of 6.18 win rate I'm asking for a buff to her 42% plat + winrate of 6.22

so here is the OP:

~~there are currently only 2 champs as of 6.22 that have a lower win rate than ~~ Nidalee ~~... ~~ Azir ~~ and ~~Kalista

Update: nidalee now has a LOWER winrate than Kalista and Azir https://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee/Jungle

this is her win rate in PLATINUM and above... 42.49%

update: Nidalee winrate as of today has now drop ed to 38% in bronze (which honeslty donest mean anything, becuase its bronze.. but its still the lowest i have EVER seen her in bronze... Update: 11/14/16 champ.gg now has 6.22 data showing a 42.49% winrate in plat +

i am SORRY you hate her, i am SORRY she was 100% pick and ban in worlds.

but she literally is the THIRD worst champ in the game right now...

she does not reach even 48% win rate in ANY elo, unranked, bronze - challenger

this is no longer an "opinion".. this is a FACT.. she NEEDS a buff.

i am a nidalee main.. she has been my main since day in in patch 3.6, she was the first champ i played, the first champ i bought, and the first champ i reach lvl 7 mastery on. and according to http://league-mastery.com/leaderboard/76?page=0 i have the 8th most mastery on nidalee on the north America, (now idk how reliable that site is, but that's another issue)

regardless of whether or not you hate her... she NEEDS a buff.. just like Azir andKalista

(well Azir need a rework, not a buff, but that's another issue)

32 Comments

SwiftKitten882 votes

I REPEAT. I AM ASKING TO BUFF A CHAMP WHO HAS A 42% WIN RATE

TeemoXNidalee2 votes

Revert her to her state before the patch that allowed her to hunt monsters.

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

Revert her to her state before the patch that allowed her to hunt monsters.

that was 4.17.. and that is what i have been asking for.. seeing that is 6.22... slighty over two years now...

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Sure, why not?

She has an immense skill requirement just to not die in her own jungle. Her players should feel rewarded to learn her.

Plus we got plenty of bursty champs in the game.

I've no problem with giving her some love.

Ben Sharpio1 votes

You're insane.

SwiftKitten882 votes

[{quoted}](name=l Sion Bot l,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-12T00:04:44.995+0000)

You're insane.

i am asking to buff a champ that has a 42% win rate... what part of that makes me insane?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

{quoted}

i am asking to buff a champ that has a 42% win rate... what part of that makes me insane?

42%? really hmm what i saw was a 47.57% which is a lil on the low side but she isnt as popular anymore other champs are just a tad bit better and she takes more skill now to be a real threat

Cheetah Nidalee2 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-12T00:42:37.172+0000)

42%? really hmm what i saw was a 47.57% which is a lil on the low side but she isnt as popular anymore other champs are just a tad bit better and she takes more skill now to be a real threat

op.gg says 47.57%, but the site is still on 6.21 data... a champ .gg says 45.89%, but again on 6.21

the removal of strength of the ages in 6.22 REALLY hurt her, which is why when you see her on stats that track data day by day like the one linked by the op.. you can see 44.4% in plat + and 42% in unranked, bronze, and silver, 43% in gold..

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cheetah Nidalee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-12T00:53:19.005+0000)

op.gg says 47.57%, but the site is still on 6.21 data... a champ .gg says 45.89%, but again on 6.21

the removal of strength of the ages in 6.22 REALLY hurt her, which is why when you see her on stats that track data day by day like the one linked by the op.. you can see 44.4% in plat + and 42% in unranked, bronze, and silver, 43% in gold..

we are what 3 days into 6.22 ? people have to kinda see what works and dont work. and yea 300 free hp is gonna hurt any champ

but also the rework of the assassin junglers will also hurt to

the jungle changes in general etc ... there is a lot to consider 3 days in before someone cries

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-12T00:55:48.836+0000)

we are what 3 days into 6.22 ? people have to kinda see what works and dont work. and yea 300 free hp is gonna hurt any champ

but also the rework of the assassin junglers will also hurt to

the jungle changes in general etc ... there is a lot to consider 3 days in before someone cries

ok.. maybe so... still is not reaching what champ.gg says at roughly 46% winrate until the HIGHEST elo even in 6.21 balanced?

even if we IGNORE the 6.22 patch entirely.. she would STILL need a buff.. i mean it would be ONE thing if she was a champ like yi that can faceroll and win with a stupid high bronze winrate that dropped down to 46% in plat.. its another thing beign a hard very high skill cap champ that is WORSE at lower elos and even plat + only reach 46%. that STILL means she needs would a buff...

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

{quoted}

ok.. maybe so... still is not reaching what champ.gg says at roughly 46% winrate until the HIGHEST elo even in 6.21 balanced?

even if we IGNORE the 6.22 patch entirely.. she would STILL need a buff.. i mean it would be ONE thing if she was a champ like yi that can faceroll and win with a stupid high bronze winrate that dropped down to 46% in plat.. its another thing beign a hard very high skill cap champ that is WORSE at lower elos and even plat + only reach 46%. that STILL means she needs would a buff...

so its been what since the worlds patch she has been consider weak? she was perma ban in the worlds tournament for the most part. people cried that there was only 4 junglers picked in pro play to begin with. that being Gragas LeeSin Nidalee RekSai

lee has a 48.77% win rate and is the most picked jungler , all four of them are on the low end and got nerfs and other champs got indirect or direct buffs to expand the diversity of the jungle picks. and now that has happen people cry on the other end. there is no perfect balanced and there never will be. its ebb n flow... maybe people need to re think of how they play nid jungle with the meta shift, jungle changes and the changes to masteries. because what was so 3 patches ago isnt what is current today

The Whamboozler1 votes

Um, if she was pick/ban in worlds then clearly she's not weak, she just requires something to be useful... and in those situations she's REALLY strong. This means she does NOT need a buff... she's VERY strong, she probably just works well in the premade enviorment of teams who can play to her strengths. There's nothing wrong with a champ being good in select situations like that.

Buff her to be strong enough to do well OUTSIDE of those situations and they'll need to kneecap her somehow to avoid her being pick/ban until the end of TIME in high elo and pro games. We don't want another "permaban Kassadin" situation.

SwiftKitten883 votes

[{quoted}](name=Our Troops,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-12T00:13:34.707+0000)

Um, if she was pick/ban in worlds then clearly she's not weak, she just requires something to be useful... and in those situations she's REALLY strong. This means she does NOT need a buff... she's VERY strong, she probably just works well in the premade enviorment of teams who can play to her strengths. There's nothing wrong with a champ being good in select situations like that.

Buff her to be strong enough to do well OUTSIDE of those situations and they'll need to kneecap her somehow to avoid her being pick/ban until the end of TIME in high elo and pro games. We don't want another "permaban Kassadin" situation.

WORLDS WAS PLAYED IN PATCH 6.18!!!! when she has a 54% win rate in plat THIS IS PATCH 6.22.. where she has a 44% win rate in plat..

that is an TEN PERCENT drop.

i repeat TEN PERCENT DROP!!!!

in patch 6.21 with the nerf to her cooldowns her win rate in plat fell to 48%

in 6.22 with the removal of strength of the ages it fell to 44%

again that is a TEN PERCENT WINRATE DROP, since her power at worlds...

she isn't AT the power was at worlds.. she hasn't been for TWO MONTHS and she has lost 10% winrate since then STOP TRYING TO USE WORLDS AS AN EXCUSE!!!

The Whamboozler1 votes

Relax. I was just going by the information YOU provided about her being perma pick/ban at worlds.

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=Our Troops,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-11-12T18:16:21.436+0000)

Relax. I was just going by the information YOU provided about her being perma pick/ban at worlds.

yeah.. and again she WASN'T weak at worlds at high elo... she is weak NOW AFTER her winrate has dropped by TEN PERCENT. i an not asking to buff a 54% winrate nid.. i am asking to buff a 44% win rate nid...

The Whamboozler1 votes

Say that in your starting post next time then.

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=Our Troops,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-12T23:11:52.183+0000)

Say that in your starting post next time then.

i did?

The Whamboozler1 votes

EDIT implies you did not.

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=Our Troops,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-13T00:00:14.259+0000)

EDIT implies you did not.

i also edited that part in before you even commented.... judgeing by the timestamps of the post i made right before i edited it in (which was 23 hours ago, and your post which was 6 hours ago) ,that edit was up for 17 hours before you made your post, so yeah... it was still there...

Marshbouy1 votes

Let's wait for LCS before drawing conclusions on her

18 NAKED COWB0YS1 votes

never type that again. dont even think that anymore.

nidalee is in no way balanced.

shes still broken as fuck and theres a reason why shes still banned every game in diamond.

LadyRenly1 votes

her kit is broke, she needs to be weak because she has too much power

Calabok1 votes

she is fine. maybe slightly OP...

Dominick Destine1 votes

Nid needs nerfs, not buffs.

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8AzbBrcb,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-11-12T01:06:21.975+0000)

Nid needs nerfs, not buffs.

she GOT nerfed.. TWICE.. it dropped her winrate by TEN PERCENT....

6.21. AND 6.22

JustMonika131 votes

Maybe because Nidalee's clear needs to be so precise and flawless that people are having a hard time adjusting to the new jungle in order to find that clear that won't get them executed?

DeathBurst1 votes

She's probably in the same basket as Shen of champs who were temporarily nerfed too hard for normal people and that should get a buff back soon. At least, she should be.

+1 for visibility.

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

She's probably in the same basket as Shen of champs who were temporarily nerfed too hard for normal people and that should get a buff back soon. At least, she should be.

+1 for visibility. as long as when tey buff her they bring EVERY elo into a somewhat balaced stats, and dont have a 9% winrate differential between diamond and bronze like they did on 6.18.

honestly it doesn't matter what champ it is or what the winrate % in any elo is... if there is a 9% difference between high elo and low elo.. the champ isn't balanced

SwiftKitten881 votes

update: https://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee/Jungle

now shows a 42.49% winrate plat+ plus

Darkslayer85

Learn to land spears.

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

Learn to land spears.

telling that to me is like telling Faker to "learn mid"...

Darkslayer851 votes

I downvoted myself because you just burned me. Seriously.

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