Oh, you're doing fine? Well their bot is 11/1.

Niyumi·Oct 4, 2016·4 votes·632 views

But, you know, it's MY fault that I lose my games. 'cause I made my bot laners feed the Jhin 11 kills. Yep.

14 Comments

PermabannedGarenOct 4, 20163 votes

What were you doing when they got those eleven kills?

Presumably stacking. Unfortunately, Nasus has horrible early game pressure so he is unreliable in lower elos, and even higher than that he's fucking garbage anyway because his TP roams aren't very good, still gets bullied in lane by most, and frankly is too one-dimensional. He can only really duel or splitpush most of the game, with only a small period in the mid-game where he can team fight effectively.

Oh, and let's not pretend that you did "fine".

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2309905471/228953398?tab=overview

You did poorly. Only Trundle and arguably Miss Fortune (the latter a very slight amount) did worse.

NiyumiOct 4, 20161 votes

Well, considering Mao literally could not fight me, and I had both him and Lee top for most of the game, I think I was helping them as much as I could. I TPed down a couple times and they literally ran in and died. But, that's what you get when you pick Susan; you put faith in your teammates being able to not feed for 20 minutes.

Oh, and I was 2/0 until the end, when I tried to stop them from ending and just got one shot repeatedly.

PermabannedGarenOct 4, 20162 votes

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Well, considering Mao literally could not fight me,

Whoa... Maokai couldn't duel Nasus?

You don't say. =\

Oh, and why did you omit that Shaco gave you an early lead? He first-blooded your laner, and Nasus with a lead is pretty much impossible to force off of CS and soon becomes impossible for his laning opponent to duel.

and I had both him and Lee top for most of the game, I think I was helping them as much as I could. I TPed down a couple times and they literally ran in and died. But, that's what you get when you pick Susan; you put faith in your teammates being able to not feed for 20 minutes.

Don't play him then. Play a champion that's more versatile and less one-dimensional. I favor carry top laners who can split push or team fight as the situation demands, but playing a reliable team fight tank like Malphite (who also counters ADCs) is also fine if you can adapt to that playstyle (I personally hate tanks).

That sounds shitty, but the reality of the situation is that Nasus won't really be a good pick unless the meta heavily favors him, he's overtuned, or he has been reworked. A champion who is encouraged to avoid interacting with their laning opponent and rewarded for doing so by becoming impossible to handle solo is a bad design, especially since he is also incredibly binary and sort of useless at the teamplay aspects.

Oh, and I was 2/0 until the end, when I tried to stop them from ending and just got one shot repeatedly.

Your first death was less than nine minutes in lol.

Here's the thing: Nasus is really bad if his team is behind. His ability to make an impact is very low, even when he's good. When he's decent if his team is reliable he can be an extremely obnoxious splitpushing nuisance, but if his team is losing around him he can't do much to turn the game around if the enemy team doesn't make some pretty big mistakes.

Compare this to someone like Malphite or Wukong, who can make plays happen, set up for their teams, and in Wu's case especially kill the fed enemy ADC by himself if he has done well.

GimileeOct 4, 20161 votes

Why would you make them feed? You are a bad person.

NiyumiOct 4, 20161 votes

I mean, I'm a bit of a sadist, obviously -- I love watching people tilt when they feed and lose their games! So what if I lose any LP I gain into gold? It's just so fun to watch people feed. :3

specter424Oct 4, 20161 votes

Always dodge premade bots for this reason

NiyumiOct 4, 20161 votes

Oh, they were premade? I didn't see that. xD I usually do dodge if I see a premade -- they typically feed.

stormmycastleOct 4, 20161 votes

I just uninstalled no troll. This game is trash... it just burns your time for no reason

AptestOct 4, 20161 votes

Sure, but when you get 11 kills in your lane you probably expect to win the game?

NiyumiOct 4, 20161 votes

If I get 11 kills, I expect to be strong. But, if I'm an ADC, I'm still squishy and easily focused. But my team just had zero coordination, and zero brainpower. So, yeah.

AptestOct 4, 20161 votes

yes but... what if you are Jax or Fiora or Fizz and get 11 kills? do you expect to win?

NiyumiOct 4, 20161 votes

Jax or Blue Square, definitely. Fiora... can be iffy. She's really squishy and easy to kill.

AptestOct 4, 20161 votes

to recap:

if jax gets 11 kills in lane, deserves to carry team to victory regardless or rest of team. if ashe+braum get 11 kills in lane, does not deserve to carry team to victory regardless of rest of team.

NiyumiOct 4, 20161 votes

Well, Jax and Blue Square are retardedly broken. They can easily carry a team that is terrible. An ADC, while broken, is still easily killed, and can have trouble carrying a bad team.